Ben Dhyan
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No one said they were lying.....sorry to break it to you Thief but TV talking heads are not omniscient...besides which, second hand narrative is monkey knowledge, ie., a belief.....truth must be realized directly..
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Scientific Method is useless in religion?
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
so...you have some God leading you by the hand?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
There is only one God....but I won't argue...except to add...except when I get too big for my britches...
The methods presented are not the only factors involved. There is also the state of the observer and the purpose of the endeavor, the sum of which dictates the output. The output conventionally presented, such as technological advancements, etc is usually absent the contributions of those other factors.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Does one agree with the topic of the thread? Please
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
Give me science any day, I would rather medical science fix me than some religious nut praying over me, my how primitive that would be.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The Truthful Religion does not forbid one from getting treatment from a medical doctor if one is sick and needs it. Please
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
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Thank god for that lol.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
So, one agrees that:
"Scientific Method is useless in religion?"
Science never claimed to be dealing with the religious issues. Science has its own well-defined limits. Right? Please
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
I meant thank god he isn't part of our recovery from whatever ailment, there seems to be death where ever he is.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
We need medicine and prayer both for recovery from our ailment.
Death is altogether a different issue and it is inevitable at some point of time. Right? Please
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
Excuses, but that is Ok.
The scientific method is a specialized application of the knowledge gathering method called the pramana-shastra by Indians and buddhists. As such it has been considered as valid a technique for discerning truths in the worldly sphere as in the transcendental sphere ( most Indians schools deny that there is any ultimate distinction between the two). Thus I would consider the scientific method to be as valid a means for gaining physical knowledge as religious knowledge. Abrahamic religions will probably deny this, but not the dharma ones . The latter may say it's improper to start with a purely physical worldview presupposition while applying the method, bit the method itself is sound.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
What the heck is "truthful religion?"
The scientific method is useful for evaluating any claims about reality. Don't you think religions make claims about reality?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Reference colored in magenta:
Is it form the science or Revelation? Please
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
It is Islam that have all the lasting teaching in Quran of all the religion that were truthful in the origin. Please
There is no "heck" in it. Please
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I don't understand what you're asking.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
The scientific methods are useful to understand any part of the natural universe and anything that interacts with the natural world in any way. The interactions can be meadured, quantified, and studied. If the object of your religion ( whatever it may be) does not interact in any discernable way with the natural world, then it cannot be studied by using scientific methods. However, if that is the case, your religion is a mere matter of opinion and is irrelavant.