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Scientific Method is useless in religion?

Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Thief said:
the quote I used comes from the new testament
to point out.....even as you breathe, your frame of mind sets up for life after death
or your frame of mind lays you to the grave

Chemistry happens without life
Chemistry happens with life

and you seem confused
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No confusion....we are not talking about salvation of souls...we are talking about the source of life in the context of science and logic....life is intrinsic to the universe. The ordering principle of life is in the chemistry, which itself is an indivisible aspect of the oneness of the universe..
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
ben d said:
No confusion....we are not talking about salvation of souls...we are talking about the source of life in the context of science and logic....life is intrinsic to the universe. The ordering principle of life is in the chemistry, which itself is an indivisible aspect of the oneness of the universe..
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there has been a separation

God was the first to say...I AM!
He did not need a body to do so
just a creation
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
ben d said:
No confusion....we are not talking about salvation of souls...we are talking about the source of life in the context of science and logic....life is intrinsic to the universe.
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Except that the only conclusive evidences of existence of life is here on Earth.

I am saying that there are no life on other planets from other star systems, in this galaxy and others. It is probable, but we don't have any evidence that it is, so we currently don't know.

I think "life is intrinsic to the universe" statement is premature. You really don't know that it is "intrinsic".
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
gnostic said:
Except that the only conclusive evidences of existence of life is here on Earth.

I am saying that there are no life on other planets from other star systems, in this galaxy and others. It is probable, but we don't have any evidence that it is, so we currently don't know.

I think "life is intrinsic to the universe" statement is premature. You really don't know that it is "intrinsic".
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I can't help it if you limit your understanding to the lowest common denominator..that of the five physical senses....for those of the human race who develop their mind, it becomes obvious that the principle of life and form creation is intrinsic to chemistry....and chemistry is at work everywhere in the universe...so the universe itself is the source of life.... You are being like those who maintained the world was flat until Christopher Columbus physically proved it was not... :)
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
ben d said:
You are being like those who maintained the world was flat until Christopher Columbus physically proved it was not...
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Some Greek philosophers and astronomers had deducted that the Earth wasn't flat but round like a ball, over 1500 years before Columbus ever making that voyage.

And what ever make you think I ever supported flat earth.

I am saying that it is very probable that there are life in other planets other than Earth, but we have none...yet. We actually don't know anything about these other planets, let alone just how prevalence life in other part of the universe.

My point is that you are making baseless claims about the universe (again), which everyone, including "you" cannot possibly know.

How do you know that life is "intrinsic" in the universe?

Now unless you have some hidden abilities to travel across distant galaxies and visit those worlds up close and personal, I am going to go that it is nothing than your new-age thingy.
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
gnostic said:
Some Greek philosophers and astronomers had deducted that the Earth wasn't flat but round like a ball, over 1500 years before Columbus ever making that voyage.

And what ever make you think I ever supported flat earth.

I am saying that it is very probable that there are life in other planets other than Earth, but we have none...yet. We actually don't know anything about these other planets, let alone just how prevalence life in other part of the universe.

My point is that you are making baseless claims about the universe (again), which everyone, including "you" cannot possibly know.

How do you know that life is "intrinsic" in the universe?

Now unless you have some hidden abilities to travel across distant galaxies and visit those worlds up close and personal, I am going to go that it is nothing than your new-age thingy.
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New agey haha....since the dawn of time, human beings have been learning what and who they really are in the context of the universe...the answer will never be found outside yourself as the source of your life is within....Besides...the elements of the periodic table ore omnipresent throughout the universe, along with the 'laws' of chemistry at work.....the ordering principle of the universe creates...the universe is alive... .it is the source of my being. You can wait until forever to find out through belief...but belief is not the same thing as knowing...so good luck with that...
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
ben d said:
Stop avoiding the question....I asked you about the one universe....do you think it alive or dead?
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i'm not avoiding the question.....

There is one Almighty

there is one Word (universe)

One is substance..... the other is Spirit
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
As its name suggests it is useful in science only. It has not been designed for religion. Right? Please

Regards
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The scientific method is useful for any factual claim involving things we can observe or measure.

If science is useless to your religion, then your religion makes no claims about anything we can observe or measure. Does this describe your religion? Does your religion make no claims whatsoever about the physical world?
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
As its name suggests it is useful in science only. It has not been designed for religion. Right? Please

Regards
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If science could tell you what is the soul of a man, or how to put life back in the dead, it would be useful in religion.
 
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