Scientific Proof of a Soul

[Milton Platt]

My view is, if what is claimed as the "one" god can be disproved then the rest of the claims are irrelevant.

yep, but actually, there is no reason to disprove that what has not been proven.

 

[Milton Platt]

I would agree that science provides an exceptionally solid model for the scrutiny of truth claims, which existing religious ideas have yet to counter. But what is rarely discussed is that there is much within the scriptural record to suggest that the teaching Christ revealed two thousand years ago did indeed meet those same evidence based Enlightenment criteria; challenging us to test our faith against the 'Promise' of a profound justification for that trust. And it may have happened again? For those prepared to think way outside the box, this idea is fully developed at The Final Freedoms

There is nothing in religious texts that approaches the rigorous standards of science. There is nothing that even vaguely resembles the scientific methodology.

 

[Godless Ray]

DNA consists of bio-photons photons are light, therefore our DNA is made up of light and weighs 0.1 grams, the other part of our soul is the plasma running in our blood and in other parts of our body. Hence why vampires drink other peoples souls through their blood. The pineal gland in your brain pumps dopamine or a type of plasma around your brain to keep it functioning. Your brains DNA changes kept alive by dopamine going to your brain, helps stimulate soul growth. Every single thought you think affects the DNA or bio photon changes of your brain, hence why some religions recommend purannas or meditation to help stimulate soul growth. Of course negative thoughts can affect the DNA of your brain in a negative way.

Guys I appreciate the need for faith, but if you can not provide scientific evidence for Christianity it might not survive the scientific future of humanity. Atheists use science to try and prove our religion is wrong, lets use their own weapon against them to try and prove our religion is correct!

This is a rather interesting view of DNA my suggestion would be to read any junior science level text book on biology before proceeding further

 

[Milton Platt]

This is a rather interesting view of DNA my suggestion would be to read any junior science level text book on biology before proceeding further

Probably too many multi-syllable words......

 

[SpiritQuest]

I appreciate the need for faith...

"A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is not only possible but necessary."
-- Schucman, Dr. Helen. A Course in Miracles (p. 1255). Foundation for Inner Peace. Kindle Edition.


Particles of matter emerge from consciousness as evidenced by the double slit experiment of quantum mechanics. Material objects do not exist until they are observed. The most fundamental law of reality is the law of cause and effect. People put their faith in matter but universal oneness of consciousness is the cause and matter is an effect. Articulated knowledge is the basis for linguistic communication but it is not the direct non-articulated knowledge of Source(God). Spiritual practice is a training of the mind on the path to awakening.. The more awake and consciously aware you are, the more alive you are...

 

[Milton Platt]

"A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is not only possible but necessary."
-- Schucman, Dr. Helen. A Course in Miracles (p. 1255). Foundation for Inner Peace. Kindle Edition.


Particles of matter emerge from consciousness as evidenced by the double slit experiment of quantum mechanics. Material objects do not exist until they are observed. The most fundamental law of reality is the law of cause and effect. People put their faith in matter but universal oneness of consciousness is the cause and matter is an effect. Articulated knowledge is the basis for linguistic communication but it is not the direct non-articulated knowledge of Source(God). Spiritual practice is a training of the mind on the path to awakening.. The more awake and consciously aware you are, the more alive you are...

What would be needed id not only a universal experience, but one that is universally consistent and can be demonstrated to be factually correct. The double slit experiment does not address cosciousness. You are incorrect.

There does not appear to be anything in the science literature that notes the law of cause and effect as "the most fundamental law".

 

[Jason0047]

Well, I am a Christian, and I am not so sure that DNA has elements of light in it. Even if it did have light, that does not mean that it scientifically proves that we have a soul. I know we have a soul because the Bible says so. I know the Bible is true because of logic, and reason and by the impact it has had on my life (by the fact that Jesus transformed my life).

It was only later that I discovered strong evidences that back up God's Word.

Here is a Blogger Article I had written that provides more reasonable evidences in the fact that the Bible is divine in origin.

Love Branch: February 2017


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[Daisies4me]

Souls are made of energy right? I just explained exactly what energy. The bio-photons (photons are the scientific term for light particles) of our DNA and the plasma in our blood. So our soul consists of the light in our DNA and the plasma in our body. Did you know there are like 50 quotes in the bible about not ingesting the blood of an animal "because that is the life of the animal".

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Hi al

Well, 'bless my soul'. Ever heard anyone say that?
How many 'souls' survived the flood of Noah's day? The Bible says eight souls. You are a soul. A soul is you.

"the soul that is sinning, it itself will die".
Blood is required to keep the body alive. Blood cannot sin, can it?

Blood is a life-force required in order to remain alive. bleed out, and die.

Psalms 146:3-4

The Bible got it right.

 

[SpiritQuest]

What would be needed id not only a universal experience, but one that is universally consistent and can be demonstrated to be factually correct. The double slit experiment does not address cosciousness. You are incorrect.

There does not appear to be anything in the science literature that notes the law of cause and effect as "the most fundamental law".

Is there a limit to articulation and "demonstration"? Awareness is the most fundamental fact of your existence. You can be aware of your own moods and modes, and articulations of thoughts. Conscious observers participate in the ongoing creation of the universe.

Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking? | DiscoverMagazine.com

Why does the universe exist? Wheeler believes the quest for an answer to that question inevitably entails wrestling with the implications of one of the strangest aspects of modern physics: According to the rules of quantum mechanics, our observations influence the universe at the most fundamental levels. The boundary between an objective "world out there" and our own subjective consciousness that seemed so clearly defined in physics before the eerie discoveries of the 20th century blurs in quantum mechanics. When physicists look at the basic constituents of reality— atoms and their innards, or the particles of light called photons— what they see depends on how they have set up their experiment. A physicist's observations determine whether an atom, say, behaves like a fluid wave or a hard particle, or which path it follows in traveling from one point to another. From the quantum perspective the universe is an extremely interactive place.

Causality (physics) - Wikipedia

Causality is the relationship between causes and effects. It is considered to be fundamental to all natural science, especially physics.

"Although I think that life may be the result of an accident, I do not think that of consciousness. Consciousness cannot be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental. It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else." -- Erwin Schrodinger

 

[Jason0047]

Polymath257.

You may not agree with everything in my list of evidences that back up God's Word, but that does not discount the never ending list of evidences that supports God's Word as being a divine book and that it is true. In either case, if you are looking for reasons to mock God's Word and to not see that it is not true, then evidences will only be there for you to disprove and they will not be there for you to check out for yourself in an objective matter. A person can go into a crime scene and make conclusions without looking at the evidence. But a good detective looks at all the evidence and sees that there is a pattern of evidence that points to a reasonable conclusion. But if a person's mind is made up, they will see whatever they want to see (despite the evidence).

Anyways, a person first needs to take a step of faith in order to believe God's Word.
Then the evidences will come in time (after trusting in God for a good while).

I used to be an atheist for a short time.
I used to believe the lie of Evolution.
But in time, God convinced me otherwise.


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[Unveiled Artist]

Spirit is energy and soul is personality.

Spirit is the energy that keeps the person alive.
Soul defines a person, that makes that person a person.

Without energy, moving parts that make of DNA wouldn't work. So, we need spirit to be alive.

The latter has more to do with psychology and culture among other topics that studies human nature, community, and the individual's place in life. Without the soul, we'd have no sense of self.

There doesn't need to be a scientific "proof" of soul. We are souls and we are spirit. You can see this in every living animal, plant, and human.

 

[Sapiens]

Polymath257.

You may not agree with everything in my list of evidences that back up God's Word, but that does not discount the never ending list of evidences that supports God's Word as being a divine book and that it is true. In either case, if you are looking for reasons to mock God's Word and to not see that it is not true, then evidences will only be there for you to disprove and they will not be there for you to check out for yourself in an objective matter. A person can go into a crime scene and make conclusions without looking at the evidence. But a good detective looks at all the evidence and sees that there is a pattern of evidence that points to a reasonable conclusion. But if a person's mind is made up, they will see whatever they want to see (despite the evidence).

Anyways, a person first needs to take a step of faith in order to believe God's Word.
Then the evidences will come in time (after trusting in God for a good while).

I used to be an atheist for a short time.
I used to believe the lie of Evolution.
But in time, God convinced me otherwise.


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You claim that a prejudiced state of mind is a requirement:

if you are looking for reasons to mock God's Word and to not see that it is not true, then evidences will only be there for you to disprove and they will not be there for you to check out for yourself in an objective matter.​

Yet you say:

But if a person's mind is made up, they will see whatever they want to see (despite the evidence).
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You can have it one way or the other, but not both.

 

[AlexandertheGreat]

How about providing some scientific evidence that vampires exist?

I highly doubt vampires exist in the 3rd dimension, that said Vlad the Impaler did used to drink blood.

 

[AlexandertheGreat]

Guys our DNA changes billions of times every second with every decision. Remember what the bible talks about, about Pigs being dirty animals so as not to eat them, well they share 90% of their DNA with us making them our cousins. Eating pigs is like eating monkeys in regards to eating an animal with similar DNA to you. "only things that come out of your mouth can corrupt you" what if those DNA or bio-photon changes are what that passage is referring to.

Anyway bio-photons are an interesting topic and here are some links. Remember bio-photons are DNA light for anyone who doesnt know what a photon is. Is it scary for some people to think our souls may be made of light energy? "Nobody is quite sure how cells produce biophotons but the latest thinking is that various molecular processes can emit photons and that these are transported to the cell surface by energy carying excitons."

And, why are they called ‘Bio’? Because they are emitted within the strands of our DNA. We give off light when we are born and when we die. Light enters at birth and leaves at death. Can it be any simpler or sweeter?

Why should I study biology again when I already aced it in high school? I am beyond high school science but some of you arnt and are arguing with me because you dont know what a photon, is once again a photon is the scientific term for light.

http://www.abzu2.com/2014/02/17/in-...y-edge-of-an-unimagined-frontier-bio-photons/
The Puzzling Role Of Biophotons In The Brain
Biophoton emission. New evidence for coherence and DNA as source. - PubMed - NCBI
Biophoton Communication: Can Cells Talk Using Light?

 

[questfortruth]

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Guys I appreciate the need for faith, but if you can not provide scientific evidence for Christianity it might not survive the scientific future of humanity. Atheists use science to try and prove our religion is wrong, lets use their own weapon against them to try and prove our religion is correct!

I have done mine part, look the link:

 

[AlexandertheGreat]

I have done mine part, look the link:

I was an Atheist at one point in my life until I found out about the singularity and how it holds creation together, originating from a source near the centre of the universe. Then I realised there is a god and its the singularity. I wasnt sure if there was a soul until I started researching bio-photons, now I know there is.

 

[questfortruth]

I was an Atheist at one point in my life until I found out about the singularity and how it holds creation together, originating from a source near the centre of the universe. Then I realised there is a god and its the singularity. I wasnt sure if there was a soul until I started researching bio-photons, now I know there is.

Dear Alexander, I am glad, what you have started the walking towards the Verity. Yes, the Singularities are there in High energy Physics, but they are not physical. Please re-read my link, I have just added new information there. What the papers are on bio-photons, can you give us a link?

 

[12jtartar]

DNA consists of bio-photons photons are light, therefore our DNA is made up of light and weighs 0.1 grams, the other part of our soul is the plasma running in our blood and in other parts of our body. Hence why vampires drink other peoples souls through their blood. The pineal gland in your brain pumps dopamine or a type of plasma around your brain to keep it functioning. Your brains DNA changes kept alive by dopamine going to your brain, helps stimulate soul growth. Every single thought you think affects the DNA or bio photon changes of your brain, hence why some religions recommend purannas or meditation to help stimulate soul growth. Of course negative thoughts can affect the DNA of your brain in a negative way.

Guys I appreciate the need for faith, but if you can not provide scientific evidence for Christianity it might not survive the scientific future of humanity. Atheists use science to try and prove our religion is wrong, lets use their own weapon against them to try and prove our religion is correct!

AlexandertheGreat,
Even though Christians are happy when something in science or archeology proofs what the Bible has said for thousands of years, it is not necessary for belief, or faith in Jehovah, The Almighty God, who created all things and is the source of all life, Revelation 4:11, Acts 17:24,25, Psalms 36:9.
Christians know that, only the true God can prophesy inerrantly, into the future, and can cause His prophecies to come true every time, and exactly on time.
Also there are many things written in the Bible that no human on earth knew anything about. God gave information to His Bible writers, to help them, and also to show anyone in the future, that The Almighty God, Jehovah controls all things, and has the power to cause all thing to happen just as He originally purposes, Isaiah 14:24-27, 55:11.
Christians do not need to worry about what is coming on this earth, because the god of this system of things, Satan will soon be put away, so that he will not try to influence anyone for a thousand years and all so-called gods, will be destroyed, along with all who worship them, Revelation 20:1-3, Jeremiah 10:10-15, Psalms 115:1-8, 135:1-18.
God does not desire to destroy anyone, and neither does Jesus, who gave his life so that all who would put their trust in him and follow him could live forever in a paradise earth, but Jesus will remove all on earth who will not listen to the one who knows everything, 2Peter 3:3-13. Agape!!!

 

[Jason0047]

You claim that a prejudiced state of mind is a requirement:

if you are looking for reasons to mock God's Word and to not see that it is not true, then evidences will only be there for you to disprove and they will not be there for you to check out for yourself in an objective matter.​

Yet you say:

But if a person's mind is made up, they will see whatever they want to see (despite the evidence).
​

You can have it one way or the other, but not both.

I used to be an atheist. So I was in your camp at one time. I did look at things from the atheistic world view and it is non sense. Looking at the evidence as a whole objectively will lead you to God. Many atheists have came to Jesus as a result of investigating the evidence for God's Word. This would not be the case if the Bible is not true.


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[Valjean]

I used to be an atheist. So I was in your camp at one time. I did look at things from the atheistic world view and it is non sense. Looking at the evidence as a whole objectively will lead you to God. Many atheists have came to Jesus as a result of investigating the evidence for God's Word. This would not be the case if the Bible is not true.

There is no such thing as an atheist world view. Atheism is a simple lack of belief. You're conflating it with religion or with some doctrine that does have a world view.
Please, what is this evidence of God?