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Searching for one secular reason to ban gay marriage

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
Dude, I never implied anyone was mentally unstable,now did I, I am merely making a claim that children raised in that enviroment are more influenced to be open minded towards that lifestyle.
I'm unsure where on earth you're getting this mental disorder thing from my post. I asked about androgen insensitivity and genetic variant people... not mental disorders.
You found 1 report that promotes you side ,I have found several that discount you position.
Are you sure you looked at what I linked? It cites dozens of studies.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Why don't gays just live their life and stop making it a mission to advocate and promote and defend their position.
Why don't you let them??

No one is trying to "make you gay" or even convince you that being gay is ok. The TOPIC of the thread is gay marriage. In other words, one of most basic things that humans do in order to live their life.
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
Except with that mind set you can't limit beastiality,incest and the lot of sexual orientation.

Slippery slope fallacies are illogical, and don't have any place in rational argument. We've been down that road already.

Why don't gays just live their life and stop making it a mission to advocate and promote and defend their position.

Why don't Christians just live their lives and stop trying to stop people from having abortions, stop gay people from getting married, and stop trying to get teachers to lead prayer during class time? Why can't Christians just live their lives and stop trying to convert everyone they meet? Why can't Christians let the government do its job?

It's unnatural for one to use their organs contrary to what they were intended ,according to observable evidence and that's it.

If it's so unnatural, then why do heterosexual couples have non-vaginal sex? If having sex for procreation were the only available option, then why do humans and other animals get pleasure from sex, and have sex for reasons other than having babies? Like she said, if it were unnatural, it wouldn't be possible.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Except with that mind set you can't limit beastiality,incest and the lot of sexual orientation.
Why don't gays just live their life and stop making it a mission to advocate and promote and defend their position.
It's unnatural for one to use their organs contrary to what they were intended ,according to observable evidence and that's it.
I don't mean to jump on the bandwagon, but other than getting your rocks off, the concept of beastiality has absolutely nothing in common with homosexuality. If people don't know the difference between the two, then they need to go back to school and re-learn the course on Human Sexuality.

Why don't fundementalists stop their crusade of trying to oppress and conform groups of people who differ from them. Live and let live.

And many organs, from all groups of people are being used contrary to their "function." Not to mention all of the "unnatural" goodness that we put in our bodies for human consumption.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I am merely making a claim that children raised in that enviroment are more influenced to be open minded towards that lifestyle.
What would be wrong about a child being open minded, and tolerant of gays, rather than turning the child into a hatemonger? I would rather any child I have know he will still be loved if he's gay, than be frightened of consequences for being so.
Many times it is more influence in our society that promote many to come out ,but it has it's root in perversion and sensual gradification ,face it we live in a society that points to free expression and sexual freedom and then they try have it sanctioned and make it as if it is normal and natural to have anal sex.
This society doesn't accept people's personal expressions 100% of the time, and being homosexual isn't exactly welcomed with open arms.

That is as unnatual as beastiality is or any other thing that is contrary to the observable function of our anatomy
Due to hormones and sexual organs, our anatomy drives us to seek sexual gratification, from any of the varied forms of sex, and even masturabtion. It's perfectly natural, and to even find ways to maximize sexual gratification and pleasure.
Beastiality is with other animals, such as dogs, deer, etc., whereas homosexuality is with OTHER PEOPLE! BIG difference!
 
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