Serial Adultery, Cheating, Lying, Trysts With a Porn Star . . . .

[Shaul]

Well, yeah, there's a lot of forgiveness in politics, too. Of course, both sides are going to forgive the peccadilloes of their own, and why wouldn't they?

But overall, I think the public seems to be more numb to allegations of marital infidelity in politics. While it pretty much killed Gary Hart's campaign for president back in the 80s, it didn't seem to have much effect on Clinton's campaign. Even JFK is still beloved by millions, despite his affairs.

More people overall seem accepting of it than in previous eras. Stories like that seem to have a certain titillating appeal to a voyeuristic public always on the lookout for a cheap thrill.

Pretty well put.

 

[Nakosis]

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THE SACRED VALUES OF TRUMPISM
A. Core Values

By Paul Froese, Jeremy Uecker, and Kenneth Vaughan

As national surveys and exit polls have already shown, Evangelical Protestants voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. This was somewhat surprising given that evangelical voters tend to value expressions of religious piety from their chosen candidates; arguably, Donald Trump did not fit the normal Evangelical profile. That said, there were some indications that the Trump campaign could appeal to conservative religionists.

Taken together, the favoring of emotional Truth over fact and the belief that patriotism is fundamentally anti-government were key components of Trump’s rhetoric and popularity.

More than six in ten white Evangelical Protestants voted for Donald Trump. This is below
some other national survey estimates due to how evangelicalism is measured; our calculation is
based on the church attended by a respondent.

In sum, of those who voted for Trump, the majority:

• are members of white Evangelical Protestant churches
• consider themselves “very religious”
• think of the United States as a Christian nation
• believe that God is actively engaged in world affairs
• fear Muslims and refugees from the Middle East
• believe that women are not suited for politics
• oppose LGBTQ rights
source​

.​

Personally, I don't care much. What happens between consenting adults, not my business. Something for Trump and his wife to deal with. I do feel kind of sorry for Baron...

Maybe not, lots of money to get over the embarrassment. "Hey, my Dad slept with a porn star and was POTUS. What did your Dad do?"

I could deal with that. I hope he can.

 

[sun rise]

...or keeps the economy from tanking. Do you folks really believe we didn't know who Donald Trump was before we voted for him? About time to get over it and move on, don't you think?

Get over that evil toad? NEVER. The right can't get over Hillary Clinton for nothing much at all. Evil donny is incredibly worse, We're going to get him and we're going to get the NRA and we're going to get the Deep State right wing plutocrats. Get used to it. There's a tsunami coming and what we've seen are the gentle wavelets of what's to come.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Personally, I don't care much. What happens between consenting adults, not my business. Something for Trump and his wife to deal with. I do feel kind of sorry for Baron...

Maybe not, lots of money to get over the embarrassment. "Hey, my Dad slept with a porn star and was POTUS. What did your Dad do?"

I could deal with that. I hope he can.

You'd really be okay with your dad sleeping with another woman while your mom recovered from giving birth to you as long as he had lots of money? Really? ...I guess we really do get the leaders we deserve.

 

[BSM1]

Get over that evil toad? NEVER. The right can't get over Hillary Clinton for nothing much at all. Evil donny is incredibly worse, We're going to get him and we're going to get the NRA and we're going to get the Deep State right wing plutocrats. Get used to it. There's a tsunami coming and what we've seen are the gentle wavelets of what's to come.

Alrighty then...

 

[Audie]

To evangelicals, "family values" simply means keeping gays and women in their place.

May we likewise say liberal "family values" is to kill the baby before it takes up a place?

 

[Nakosis]

You'd really be okay with your dad sleeping with another woman while your mom recovered from giving birth to you as long as he had lots of money? Really? ...I guess we really do get the leaders we deserve.

What I'm saying is, we don't get to choose our parents. So you have to play with the hand you're dealt.

I'm hoping Baron can find a way to deal with it.

If you want you judge folks according to who they are sleeping with, that's your call. I did it with Clinton, so I'm not saying you're wrong. Since, I've become more of a moral nihilist.

Folks want to judge people for their sexual escapades. I see little benefit in it anymore.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What I'm saying is, we don't get to choose our parents. So you have to play with the hand you're dealt.

I'm hoping Baron can find a way to deal with it.

If you want you judge folks according to who they are sleeping with, that's your call. I did it with Clinton, so I'm not saying you're wrong. Since, I've become more of a moral nihilist.

Folks want to judge people for their sexual escapades. I see little benefit in it anymore.

Well, yes, I do look down on adultery.

 

[David T]

How about at a grocery store?
Gabrielle Giffords - Wikipedia

I was going To ask The same thing. Here is a cut and paste from wiki of the shooter.


"prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal."[40] [41] The tone of Loughner's online writings and videos from immediately before the attack were described by The Guardian as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party movement".[42]

One thing that we don't see culturally is how politics and the noise chamber of media affects some people.. while most function in it there is always this danger because of it. When It becomes the totality of reality then we end.up spinning into madness eventually as a culture just like this crazy shooter.

Hitler was a manifestation of culture across a long history in Europe. We aren't exempt in the US and politics isn't reality it's psychological and it's about power money fame . Why is government dysfunctional? Look at culture and more.precisely the individual. People love to point to church as problematic. History has shown they are "normal".

 

[David1967]

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THE SACRED VALUES OF TRUMPISM
A. Core Values

By Paul Froese, Jeremy Uecker, and Kenneth Vaughan

As national surveys and exit polls have already shown, Evangelical Protestants voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. This was somewhat surprising given that evangelical voters tend to value expressions of religious piety from their chosen candidates; arguably, Donald Trump did not fit the normal Evangelical profile. That said, there were some indications that the Trump campaign could appeal to conservative religionists.

Taken together, the favoring of emotional Truth over fact and the belief that patriotism is fundamentally anti-government were key components of Trump’s rhetoric and popularity.

More than six in ten white Evangelical Protestants voted for Donald Trump. This is below
some other national survey estimates due to how evangelicalism is measured; our calculation is
based on the church attended by a respondent.

In sum, of those who voted for Trump, the majority:

• are members of white Evangelical Protestant churches
• consider themselves “very religious”
• think of the United States as a Christian nation
• believe that God is actively engaged in world affairs
• fear Muslims and refugees from the Middle East
• believe that women are not suited for politics
• oppose LGBTQ rights
source​

.​

Excellent reason not to mix religion and politics.

 

[Revoltingest]

In sum, of those who voted for Trump, the majority:

• are members of white Evangelical Protestant churches
• consider themselves “very religious”
• think of the United States as a Christian nation
• believe that God is actively engaged in world affairs
• fear Muslims and refugees from the Middle East
• believe that women are not suited for politics
• oppose LGBTQ rights
source​

.​

Odd....of the Trump voters I know IRL, not one has any of those traits.
Could the claims in your post be from the same source which had
Hillary winning by a landslide? Some people sure like to paint pictures.

 

[Skwim]

It does! but I think the O.P. Could have put cheating, adultery, and trysts all under the umbrella of adultery since they are the same, I guess it made it more dramatic to use all three.

Actually, the title came from the opening words of the hypocritical evangelical in the cartoon. I thought that would be pretty obvious. Guess not. And it is more dramatical to use all three, which is why I'm sure Carlson chose them.

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[Skwim]

Odd....of the Trump voters I know IRL, not one has any of those traits.
Could the claims in your post be from the same source which had
Hillary winning by a landslide? Some people sure like to paint pictures.

"In sum, of those who voted for Trump, the majority: . . . ."​

Stop hanging around that puny minority of yours.

.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I was watching Obama being forgiven for his peccadilloes time and time again by his friends and covered by his fans in the media. Where were you?

Which "peccadilloes" in particular? Did he cheat on his just-given-birth wife with a pornstar and I missed it?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Get over that evil toad? NEVER. The right can't get over Hillary Clinton for nothing much at all. Evil donny is incredibly worse, We're going to get him and we're going to get the NRA and we're going to get the Deep State right wing plutocrats. Get used to it. There's a tsunami coming and what we've seen are the gentle wavelets of what's to come.

But her emails...

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

May we likewise say liberal "family values" is to kill the baby before it takes up a place?

Of course. That's why no liberals have children and they hate education, childcare and child health programs.

 

[Woberts]

...or keeps the economy from tanking. Do you folks really believe we didn't know who Donald Trump was before we voted for him? About time to get over it and move on, don't you think?

I was just (more or less) quoting what people, mostly evangelical Christians have said when asked about his actions. Also, a lot of things the Trump Administration claims that it caused, it didn't actually cause.
Consider the following:
Analysis | Comparing the ‘Trump economy’ to the ‘Obama economy’

 

[Revoltingest]

Stop hanging around that puny minority of yours.
.

It's why I come here....to see the crazy Americastanian underbelly.

Weird....
My spell checker allows "Americastanian".

 

[Nakosis]

Well, yes, I do look down on adultery.

Why?

I suspect Melania's not in the dark about this. I saw some article, I don't think she's real happy, but she got her financial security and her son.

Inside the Trump Marriage: Melania’s Burden

She can always get a divorce. I suspect she's towing the line for now. Likely get a divorce after the presidency. Anyway their family, their problem. I just feel a little bad for the kid.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Why?

I suspect Melania's not in the dark about this. I saw some article, I don't think she's real happy, but she got her financial security and her son.

Inside the Trump Marriage: Melania’s Burden

She can always get a divorce. I suspect she's towing the line for now. Likely get a divorce after the presidency. Anyway their family, their problem. I just feel a little bad for the kid.

If you can't see why adultery is wrong, I can't help you. I honestly feel bad for Melania. She's like a Russian bride. He'll probably dump her in a few years.