My own orientation is despised
I won't hate you, actually I would like to be friends and maybe you get to meet my boyfriend (btw: he pees on 3 legs)
You could argue that you are taking advantage of animals even if you aren't hurting them.
When some buys a dog, he is taking advantage of the dog from the beginning, (advantage by gaining happiness, companionship, protection at the cost of the dog, who will be a "slave" to that owner) So how is non-abusive sex any different from training useless tricks on a dog to make him perform on an agility contest?
Animals cannot consent. If you have sex with an animal, you are raping it.
I guess you mean animals can't give
LEGAL HUMAN consent, because they are able to give
normal consent for basic things like letting a human ride them (horses) or let a human caress them or even let a human have sex with him/her. If the animal does not give or withdraws
normal consent the human will end on the floor (horse case) or will be attacked or at least show that the activity done to the animal is not welcome (caress and sex case) animals have body language and other ways to communicate
normal consent and humans can understand that comunication with training or by spending time with the animal, so is NOT always rape if
normal consent is involved and the opinion of the animal is respected.
Now how come
LEGAL HUMAN CONSENT is required only for sex with animals? But not required to murder them for: food, population control, dangerous animals control or sport hunting, or for: scientific experiments, making them work for humans, unnecessary operations like: dew clawing, ear and tail cropping, neutering, or even having a pet (which is the same as an slave) all those actions are done without the animal
LEGAL HUMAN CONSENT and I bet you are OK with it.
You have a double standard, legal human consent is not why sex with animals is wrong. As animals don't have
legal human consent laws protecting them.
The day that killing an animal without his
LEGAL HUMAN CONSENT becomes illegal and equal to murder, your argument will be valid, but for now it is not a valid reason to say bestiality is wrong.
That it's some sort of alternate sexuality however is patently absurd and not up for debate. Maybe a semi-acceptable fetish [mental illness] and that's stretching it.
According to 4 resent studies done to around 400 people that had or are having sex with animals, around 80% of them where zoosexuals (they fit the sexual orientation profile) the other 18% are people with a sexual fetish for animals and the last 2% where zoosadists who enjoy killing and torturing animals, some times in a sexual way (if the animal dies or suffers)
Zoosexuality or animal-fetish are not a mental illness
unless the person is unhappy with his behavior or he is hurting others (
thats what the APA says in the DSM). Not all the Bestialists (animal fetish people) hurt animals, and the Zoophiles will never hurt animals on purpose (only by unwanted accidents)
Zoosexuality is composed of bestialists (they are the ones with an animal fetish, they can be abusive or not to animals)+zoophiles (always good never abusive)+zoosadists (always abusive)
Same segregation is found in human+human orientations (excluding pedosexuality)
For example: Heterosexuality is composed of people with a fetish for humans (they see humans as sex objects, normally using female or male prostitutes for sex, they can be abusive or not to humans) the "normal heterosexual" (people that loves and care for humans and have sex with them, they are always good) and the rapists and abusers (they are the bad guys).
I think a lot of people forget that your freedom to express your opinions, views, and individuality does not take away my freedom to express my views, opinions, and individuality in disagreement of yours
No problem with that, the problem is that some people take that freedom to express an opinions to the physical realm of killing the animal involved and beating or killing the human. (I had my share of death treats against me and my 4 legged boyfriend)
Ugh...just no. Just don't rape animals. Those laws are in place for a reason.
There are already animal abuse laws that protect animals from all kind of abusive activities (even sex) what those anti-bestiality laws want is to punish people that are not abusing (raping) animals but doing something disgusting and sinful.
In Washington DC you can go to jail up to 10 years if you are cleaning a horse genitals and he gets an erection. You actually have to hire a veterinarian to do anything that may give a horse an erection since only vets are allowed to arouse animals on purpose or by accident.
For example: If you are caught in Washington DC french kissing a dog or leting a dog hump your leg till he orgasm you will go to jail up to 10 years too. That is unfair, that stupid are those anti-bestiality laws. (luckily in 17 USA states is legal to have non-abusive sex with animals)
While it may seem that there are more heterosexuals, this might not be the case.
Actually theres more than heterosexuality and many combinations with other sexualities, but most people will keep their "abnormal sexual orientation" as a secret to avoid discrimination.
For example there are: Pedosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, zoosexuals, objectosexuals, dendrosexuals, ecosexuals, pansexual, polysexuals, (maybe asexuality too) an many more sexual fetishes that may fit the sexual orientation profile. (PS: all those I just mention are protected in USA under sexual orientation sex crimes bill)
Animals only know how to have sex to reproduce. Bestiality does not reproduce offspring, and the needs of only the human are being met.
Not really, over 400 species of animals are know to have homosexuals activities including anal sex with full orgasm (no reproduction at all), a bigger amount of animals are know to masturbate themselves (no reproduction) and a smaller amount of animals are know to have sex with objects (
female porcupine masturbate by walking while dragging a stick that is in touch with the clitoris and dogs are know have sex with pillows or any object for that matter) also inter-specie sex occurs in many species (elephant with rhino for example) no reproduction in there, some exceptions are the cases of nearly related species where reproduction is possible and causes hybrids offspring like: (tiger with a lion) or (camel with alpaca) or (zebra with horse) most of the time the offspring is sterile.
All those non-reproductive activities can be easily observed on places like youtube if you want visual prof.
BTW if the human knows what he is doing the animal can gain something from sex, animals can reach orgasm, have fun, get good exercise, stress relieve, stronger bond with the human and maybe prevent prostate problems in male dogs. (since sex seems to do that on humans prostate)
Probably the most recently adapted moral domain is that of personal purity.
Very interesting theory indeed.
Oh and further..some odors that disgust "most" dont disgust some people.
I find garbage odor to be pleasant or neutral. When other people will cover their nose and stay away. Yet some perfumes give me allergies or I can't stand near them because I don't like the smell at all.
I guess some smells are genetically programed,
maybe on rare cases some one may smell something different than some one else, for you an apple may smell like an apple but for some one else it will smell like a pear, you both will name the object apple and will say that "it smell like apple" but the other guy is actually smelling pear and you would never know that he smell it different than you.