Shocked To Find Out Yahweh Was Originally A Canaanite God Who Had A Wife, Asherah

[WonderingWorrier]

Once again the Bible is the claim. It is not the evidence. You can't seem to find any evidence for your beliefs either.

Here is an exercise for you, see if you can find any evidence for your beliefs outside of the Bible. I might have to help you with the concept of evidence too.

Thank you. I would like to accept your help.


There is a Maori god called Io.

Io made 12 heavens. That's the law.


It seems we will all go to Israel accordingly (12 heavens).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank you. I would like to accept your help.


There is a Maori god called Io.

Io made 12 heavens. That's the law.


It seems we will all go to Israel accordingly (12 heavens).

Why Israel? Just because you can match obscure minor claims between religions does not support either one. One can do that time after time. It is a false forcing an observation into a pattern.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

Why Israel? Just because you can match obscure minor claims between religions does not support either one. One can do that time after time. It is a false forcing an observation into a pattern.

Does the Quran confirm what I hear in the bible?
When words lose all meaning and start moving into positions fulfilling its own prophecies? Forming a wheel pattern that can be seen all over the world?

Do the true messengers speak wheel as a single language?


Verily in Joseph and his brethren are signs (or symbols) for seekers (after Truth). Quran 12:7

It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders; Quran 15:16

 

[Subduction Zone]

Does the Quran confirm what I hear in the bible?
When words lose all meaning and start moving into positions fulfilling its own prophecies? Forming a wheel pattern that can be seen all over the world?

Do the true messengers speak wheel as a single language?


Verily in Joseph and his brethren are signs (or symbols) for seekers (after Truth). Quran 12:7

It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders; Quran 15:16

I don't know and I don't care. Both are almost certainly false since no believers can properly support their beliefs.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

I don't know and I don't care. Both are almost certainly false since no believers can properly support their beliefs.

I was reading this before:

The fact that almost every ancient civilization made a point to document the movement of the stars, and focus on twelve distinct constellations can help us piece together the larger narrative of human history. Psychologist Carl Jung believed that certain images and symbols were embedded in the subconscious of our earliest ancestors, known as archetypes. These archetypes are universal in scope and recognizable by every human. Early civilizations transcribed their interpretations of the stars into twelve distinct archetypes that are embedded within the human psyche. We also find the number twelve recurring in many points across history and mythology, ranging from the twelve tribes of Israel, the twelve trials of Hercules, to the twelve disciples of Jesus and the twelve original points of Freemasonry, and the list goes on. The fact that depictions of each zodiac sign are echoed through nearly every civilization can lead us to believe there is some hidden significance within this continuing story, whose images are repeated throughout different periods of time. The idea of a universal monomyth has been discussed in great detail by authors Giorgio DeSantillana and Hertha von Dechend, in their book, Hamlet’s Mill, in which the authors point out distinct similarities between celestial myths of nearly all of the world’s cultures.

A Circular Egyptian Mythology: Does the Dendera Zodiac Represent the Most Ancient Astronomy? | Ancient Origins (ancient-origins.net)

Interesting.

 

[joelr]

To me Ezekiel 29:1-16 is a prophecy against Pharaoh ( Egypt to be given to Babylon as a reward - Ezekiel 29:17-21)
Pharaoh was cut down by the ' sword of the king of Babylon ' - Ezekiel 31:2-3,12; Ezekiel 32:11-12, etc.
Egypt was desolated for 40 years 'after' the destruction of Jerusalem in the year 607 (BCE) the remnant of Judah fled to Egypt despite Jeremiah's warning ( Jeremiah 24:1; Jeremiah 24:8-12; Jeremiah 43:7-22 )
That fleeing did Not prove to be an escape for them because Nebuchadnezzar came up against Egypt conquering Egypt.
Thus, Not permanent but the ' 40 years of desolation of Egypt ' back then could have followed his conquest.

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It cannot be verified that Egypt was desolate for 40 years. These are all vague prophecies that cannot be known if they happened or will be moved to the future in an attempt to still make them useful. Of course if you make many predictions a few may happen. Hardly supernatural?
Other prophecies in Ezekiel:

1. Ezekiel prophesies that Tyrus will be completely destroyed by Nebuchadrezzar and will never be built again. But it wasn't destroyed, as evidenced by the visits to Tyre by Jesus and Paul (Mt 15:21, Mk 7:24, 31, Acts 21:3). 26:14,21, 27:36, 28:19
2. Ezekiel prophesies that Israel will reside in its homeland safely and securely, never again to fight neighboring nations. 28:24-26
3. Ezekiel makes another false prophecy: that Egypt would be uninhabited by humans or animals for forty years after being destroyed by Nebuchadrezzar. But there was never a time when Egypt was uninhabited. Humans and animals have lived there continuously since Ezekiel's prophecy. 29:10-11
4. "The day of the LORD is near ... it shall be the time of the heathen." 30:3
5. The rivers of Egypt (identified as the Nile in NIV, NASB, and RSV) shall dry up. This has never occurred. 30:12
6. Ezekiel prophesies God will protect the Israelites from "the heathen". "And they shall be safe in their land." But the Israelites have never lived peacefully with their neighbors, and they've never been safe from attack. 34:28-29
7. "And David my servant shall be king over them."
   How's that supposed to happen? David had been dead (if he ever lived) for more than 400 years when these words were written. 37:24
8. "Thou shalt come up against my people of Israel ... in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me ... O Gog." 38:16
9. The prophecy about Gog and Magog has been interpreted dozens of different ways; none of them came to pass. Goths, Huns, Saracens, Tatars, Scythians, Hitler, Russia, and Sadam Husein -- all these and more have been identified as the fulfillment of this prophecy. 39:1-29

 

[Twilight Hue]

Those artifacts have nothing to do with the Bible and the texts of Israelites worshipping other gods were because they mixed worshipping God with following pagan gods, something that the Bible says is wrong.

The Bible is essentially a compilation of borrowed theology.

 

[Skywalker]

The Bible is essentially a compilation of borrowed theology.

Hell is mentioned as early as Proverbs, which is before the Persian invasion of the Hebrews. Rob Bell: Populating Hell | Good Fight Ministries

The Lord makes it clear that there will be a time when it is too late to repent and even the cries for mercy from the wicked will go unheard by God:

“Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me, since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the LORD.” –Proverbs 1:28-29

 

[1213]

I never said the Bible itself is irrelevant. I said that the Bible as a SOURCE of evidence is irrelevant. It's pointless to try to use the Bible to prove the flood occurred or the Exodus happened because we already know from scientific research that those two events never happened. The earth never had a worldwide flood and 3 million Jews never left Egypt....

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

But sorry, I disagree with you, you can’t show any real scientific proof that the flood or Exodus never happened.

 

[TrueBeliever37]

I see, you bought the lies of apologists.

This is not true. Study the history of Tyre. The money and power of Tyre was always centered on the island city. Read the Bible. It describes the island Tyre. The property that was "destroyed" were called "its settlements" in the Bible. The money and power in New York City is in the city itself. Not the surrounding lands. The same applied to Tyre. It was never destroyed as the Bible said it would be. And it also said who would destroy it. He failed. You need to read your Bible. And drop the "God glasses". That is just trying to find excuses for the inexcusable.

Just plain wrong you are. You are an excellent twister of facts though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just plain wrong you are. You are an excellent twister of facts though.

You have that backwards. Do you seriously think that Tyre was the podunk suburbs? No serious historian believes that. Tyre always was the island city. The Bible even makes that clear. You should read it some day.

 

[TrueBeliever37]

You have that backwards. Do you seriously think that Tyre was the podunk suburbs? No serious historian believes that. Tyre always was the island city. The Bible even makes that clear. You should read it some day.

What I think is you don't know what you are talking about. Yet state it as fact.

 

[TrueBeliever37]

Thank you. Interesting read. The list of failed prophecies is truly....well, of Biblical proportions. All one has to do is google "Failed Bible prophecies" to get an idea of how wrong Yahweh could get it. But then, what would you expect from a failed lesser Canaanite god?

Seems to me you are fulfilling one of the prophecies right now. You know the one about how there would be mockers in the last days.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Seems to me you are fulfilling one of the prophecies right now. You know the one about how there would be mockers in the last days.

Who says we're in the last days? The earth isn't due to be burned to a cinder by our sun for 5 billion years. You have a long wait, my friend.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

But sorry, I disagree with you, you can’t show any real scientific proof that the flood or Exodus never happened.

And you can--I mean besides quoting a 3000 year old musty holy book?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What I think is you don't know what you are talking about. Yet state it as fact.

But then as usual you are just wrong again. Nothing new there.

I am betting that you do not know that the Tyre prophesy was a "buy one failed prophecy get one free". Here is a simple question for you, what was the second failed prophecy that Zeke threw in for free?

 

[TrueBeliever37]

But then as usual you are just wrong again. Nothing new there.

I am betting that you do not know that the Tyre prophesy was a "buy one failed prophecy get one free". Here is a simple question for you, what was the second failed prophecy that Zeke threw in for free?

Was there a 70 year Babylonian Captivity as prophesied in Jeremiah 25:11-12?

Was Babylon punished at the end of the 70 years as prophesied?

Was Jerusalem destroyed as prophesied by the Messiah?

Are there mockers in the last days as prophesied?

 

[TrueBeliever37]

Kangaroos would be a good start. If the pair were released on Mt. Ararat did they hop all the way to Australia without dying? Or did it take a century to get there and they had babies along the way? Wouldn't the kangaroos have stopped somewhere in Asia and just called that home, or failing that wouldn't we have seena lot of kangaroo bones along the way to Australia? And once they got to the end of the road in Malaysia how did they hop all the Indonesian islands to get to Australia. The wild gyrations a Christian has to go through to get them there is beyond laughable. It's very sad. My Christian cousin once said, "Maybe God built a giant bridge and then caused it to sink."

I think the answer is found in Genesis 10:25. After the flood, in the days of Peleg, the earth was divided. I believe you would call it continental drift/separation. Have you ever looked at a map and noticed how the continents seem like they could fit together like pieces of a puzzle? So the Kangaroos didn't have to hop all the way to Australia.

At least that is a possible explanation that I can see.

 

[TrueBeliever37]

Who says we're in the last days? The earth isn't due to be burned to a cinder by our sun for 5 billion years. You have a long wait, my friend.

You have a shorter wait left than you think.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Was there a 70 year Babylonian Captivity as prophesied in Jeremiah 25:11-12?

Was Babylon punished at the end of the 70 years as prophesied?

Was Jerusalem destroyed as prophesied by the Messiah?

Are there mockers in the last days as prophesied?

Yes, it is amazing how accurate prophecies written after the fact are

Book of Jeremiah - Wikipedia