Colt
Well-Known Member
One of our freedoms in America is the right to self-defense against the Lefts constituency.
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Should all countries adopt a 2nd Amendment (Right To Bear Arms)?
- Thread starter AnthonyGiarrusso
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The man with the idea that a gun can be used in self defense without firing it.
It wasn't his idea.
The phenomenon simply showed up in the surveys.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I know. Just a little snark that was not aimed at you in any way. I would like to see some reasonable laws. Such as the steps you take in keeping your guns safe being made mandatory. The people that hate guns cannot seem to understand how a gun works as a deterrent.
Audie
Veteran Member
It's hardly publicized but in China its knife
attacks on school kids.
I was in Paris when a truck was used to kill
and main hundreds.
Side thought that I might have tried to
defend myself with a big truck, or a knife.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Never heard of the guy.
I'm not into propaganda. I'm into facts and statistics.
And what I see is that more guns doesn't result in a safer society.
I see the opposite.
Audie
Veteran Member
Didn't see kleck coz you didn't
look.
And haven't considered that it's far more
complex than a " less guns less crime"
slogan.
Facts and stats, and all that rot.
This bespeaks lack of investigation.
Apparently only from anti-gun rights sources.
Tis mere bias confirmation. Honest investigation
means considering all sides & aspects of issues.
BTW, my criticism of propaganda wasn't about
you, but rather fervent advocates on both the
pro & anti gun sides. Their shrill bickering with
each other tends to push aside thoughtful
discourse.
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
There is no advanced country with more gun crime and gun killings than the USA.
Why would any country want to follow that.
In most other countries it is safe to walk most streets at night alone and unarmed.
Why would any country want to follow that.
In most other countries it is safe to walk most streets at night alone and unarmed.
Audie
Veteran Member
Criminals being killed is a plus
Suicidal people can choose other means.
(In Hong Kong, it's tall buildings)
China has the most cars. And.with 63000 annual
fatalities, the most deaths.
With inherently dangerous things about, people will get hurt.
No member of uncontested tribe ever gets electrovuted
or diabetes from a surfeit of coca cola.
The " safety at night" thing is less than ingenuous
if totally unqualified. Gangstas aint safe going about at night in S Chicago.
And speaking of qualified, without a breakdown who
where and why people are injured by firearms v
the social / economic benefits ( like we'd do with
cars, ski slopes, kitchen knives rat poison or
submarines), the complaint is just uninformed
and uninformative political cant.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So then why doesn't England, Canada, Australia, Japan, New Zealand and so on not need them? They don't have the body count America does.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, that's just frifhtening and dangerous partisanship and is most certainly NOT a right.
They are different countries with different cultures,
different constitutions, different histories, & different
problems. There is no switch we can throw to make
USA instantly like Japan. And adopting their singular
feature of severe gun restriction doesn't address the
other features.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
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What is true is that more guns means more deaths from guns.
For what ever reason.
However the link is not absolute, as gun laws and social constraints also make a difference, as demonstrated in countries with high gun ownership but low gun death rates.
At the moment an armed police officer in the UK is on trial for murder for shooting a motorist.
Fortunately very few of our police officers are armed or shoot people.
What is true is that more guns means more deaths from guns.
For what ever reason.
However the link is not absolute, as gun laws and social constraints also make a difference, as demonstrated in countries with high gun ownership but low gun death rates.
At the moment an armed police officer in the UK is on trial for murder for shooting a motorist.
Fortunately very few of our police officers are armed or shoot people.
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The right to bear arms derives from our Creator, not any government. The United States government simply acknowledged this truth with the Second Amendment. Other peoples and other countries, for their own purposes, don't want to, or choose not to, acknowledge this right. That's because they are afraid of people exercising their rights. And because they are little *****es.
Audie
Veteran Member
Yep.
More cars means more car deaths.
Same with bathtubs.
So..?
ETA if I'd had a gun when I was attacked there'd
be one more dead.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Says the only country this happens is, the only country who says nothing can be done.
Defeatist attirudes don't make it real.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
The problem is that in the USA the gun death rate I'd grossly disproportionate.
Car deaths are moderated by safety laws. And the control and design of the infrastructure.
The trend in the UK at the moment is for the speed limit in built-up areas is being reduced from 30 to 20mph. Including the village where I live.
Domestic accidental deaths are more difficult to legislate for. But one of the more common ones is falling down stairs.
As I am now 88 I have decided to stop driving at the end of next month, when my annual insurance expires. My eye sight is not as good as it was, and my reactions are certainly slower and I have less confidence. No doubt Uber will benefit.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Except when we make cars safer the only ones complaining are the likes of Friedman Milton who get mad over being "forced" to spend his money on an airbag he doesn't want.
We have safety laws and regulations with cars. We have laws against drunk driving, driving without a license and a license can be revoked.