Evidently, Larry Culliford.
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Should atheists offer something more than disbelief?
- Thread starter Straw Dog
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You already made up your mind before you heard what I had to say. I'm sorry that you only value your own opinion and don't value the opinions of actual experts in psychology. You're coming across as very condescending and arrogant. I'm trying to discuss whether hardcore atheists should use their critical thinking skills in other ways to benefit society and you only care about bashing every little thing I say.
Yeah, who wants to be healthier and contribute more to society.
You're right, who doesn't?
But it'd be healthier to not overlook things for what they really are.
What are they?
That is reason enough.
outhouse
Atheistically
so are you on the whacky tabacky or not???
my mind is not made up on you at all.
go back and read what you posted.
your preaching one thing and dancing a different tune
by taking away there freedom of religion.
you want it your way and this isnt burger king
Atheism is just the lack of belief in deities, how can I talk down to atheists? Besides, there's no definitive proof that physicalism is true, there's just sufficient reason to believe that it is. We have sufficient reason to expand ecological consciousness.
Here's another link about the evolutionary benefits of ecological consciousness, but it is just the opinion of experts and I guess your an expert on everything.
Losing Our Connection to Nature: Is Sustainability at Risk?
The Universe.
They are, indeed.
by taking away there freedom of religion.
you want it your way and this isnt burger king
I didn't say it had to be scientific pantheism. You're putting words in my mouth. When did I say we should force people to be pantheists, or even embrace naturalistic spirituality? I'm just promoting a beneficial approach to society and have provided links expanding on why it would be beneficial if cycled into culture. You don't listen to the opinions of experts on anything apparently so it just went over your head. The thing with naturalistic spiritual philosophies is that they're all based on scientific facts. The only thing not proven is the human tendency to have profound experiences of nature. Do profound experiences of nature not exist? Religious people also claim to have deep spiritual experiences, how do you explain those since you're an expert on everything. Probably "Oh, they're just a bunch of nut jobs!"
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Yeah, who wants to be healthier and contribute more to society.
For educative purposes:
Spirituality and Mental Health
FaithNet NAMI | Spirituality and Mental Illness
Spirituality and Mental Health - How Spirituality Can Benefit Mental and Physical Health
I wish people would hear me out before they draw their conclusions. You're doing the exact same thing as fundamentalists who already make up there minds before looking at the science.
Is that so?
What exactly am I overlooking that isn't actually that way? Human spirituality? Our profound experiences of nature? What?
Yes our nature
How so?
outhouse
Atheistically
you are in fact promoting a spiritualistic lifestyle and condemming atheist lifestyle.
that is fighting against freedom of religion
its not putting word in your mouth, you have written it quite clearly.
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You are telling us that we should worship it, well in a way worship it.
Whatever expresses the optimism.
That's what I meant.^
What the hell is an atheist lifestyle? How can you have an entire lifestyle based on an absence of belief in deities? Does it involve just debating outdated religious claims all day?
How is promoting a spiritual lifestyle against the freedom of religion? Do you even understand the freedom of religion? I'm not forcing anything. It's time for you to defend your own claims.