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Should Believers Avoid and Fear Athiest?

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Gadfly, please continue. Your post is actually brightening my day. Here I'll set you up with something about which to continue: Why do you think that this "evidence" of which you speak can only point to your God, and not one of the many other gods out there?

*goes to grab popcorn in expectation of another amusing reply*
 

GadFly

Active Member
Gadfly, please continue. Your post is actually brightening my day. Here I'll set you up with something about which to continue: Why do you think that this "evidence" of which you speak can only point to your God, and not one of the many other gods out there?

*goes to grab popcorn in expectation of another amusing reply*
Mball, you promised to ignore me. Your word is like your logic; it is not dependable. You have had too many fly bites, take the cure and comeback some other time. :sleep:
The GadFly
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Man, is this the pot calling the skittle black? Even the Gadfly would not be dense enough to say something like this. Atheist don't believe in civil liberties (self evident proof of God) and everybody know this. We can not give you a pass on this. Communist are notorious for opposing civil liberties with their moral relativity theories. You have just been infected by a GadFly bite.

You do a great disservice to your faith when you spout cretinous drivel like that. I'm an atheist, and yet I certainly believe in the rights and liberty of my fellow man. Secondly, not all communists are atheists, and not all atheists are communist, so you're little shot at that is irrelevant. What about religious states like Iran? Didn't your bible tell you it's a sin to lie, slander and bare false witness? Best get down on your knees and pray for forgiveness, boy. Do you have anything at all to offer other than ridiculous and tired straw men and ad hominems? Instead of boring us why not try to challenge us with something substantial. You know, something you can actually back up. Explain to me why you need invisible sky daddy magic in order to have rights and liberty? how does it fit into the equation? No wacky non-sequiturs, please.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
GadFly is going to respond to this posting, because it offers an excellent opportunity to point out the flaws in atheist thinking.

This is so contradictory from what you believed in post 204 which I've quoted below;

I think the verbiage in this thread has greatly been exaggerated to a boiling point at times and has been a contest to see who could make the others logic seem foolish. The idea that our logic might be called into question seems to excite the conversation beyond a comfortable level. I for one would like to change that.

You're starting to sound like a polotician....


This is far beyond your limited ability to help both sides find common ground. I don't mean that in a negative way. It is what it is. I do agree, there is no common ground between the atheist and the theist.The differences are huger than the atheist would like for the Christian to believe. In this respect the atheist lives up to his reputation of being subtle until he has captured his prey. For an example, the atheist made their move on China only after the peasants were convinced that communism was not a threat to civil liberties. But look at Tibet even today as we speak. The GadFly does mean this negatively and I do oppose the communist, even if they were to claim to be Christians in America. There is no common ground.

So we can agree that people throughout history and around the world do terrible things or do things that are most unpleasent to others. Atheist do not deny this. This is fact. An example of this can be shown with Hitler.........wait, wait.....I fogot....He was a theist.....maybe using him to confirm your rant was incorrect......Okay....just like those men who hijacked those planes and killed thousands on 9/11.....opps I've done it again....they too were theist........I'm doing this to show you that communism, socialism or whatever isms people are the same. Please let us all not forget the (Inquisitions) where many a men and women were tortured and killed (YouTube - Catholic Inquisition and The Torture Tools). Consequenlty...we atheist had nothing to do with this brutal slaying. I do believe this chapter in human suffering was orchestrated by theist (christians to be more specific).

See, that's the problem. There is no evidence. Yes, we do see. The problem is that atheist will not acknowledge the evidence.

Okay...we atheist have asked for evidence and finally...a theist with some evidence. Can you lay it out so that we can be informed?...


This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness (Ephesians 4). We see that you are alienated from God and you think differently than we do. This is what angers the atheist; we point this out and why it is true.

I see.....it's written in the bible....so that's what makes it true. Dare I say true for you but not true for all. Not all religions or people on the planet share your biblical view. This goes back to what I said earlier..... ("You believe in a god. OK.....We have no problem with it until you focus your belief system on us.")...Post 99.

Look around you. Throughout the world it is not the atheist who are at odds with you. I say this because we truly don't care about you unless you are messing with our civil liberties. Man, is this the pot calling the skittle black? Even the Gadfly would not be dense enough to say something like this.

Why?.......Does truth hurt? It wasn't my intent. It is what it is....

Atheist don't believe in civil liberties (self evident proof of God) and everybody know this.

Who's "everybody"?.......If you don't think we believe in civil liberties then you haven't been paying attention to the news.....
 

GadFly

Active Member
No matter what the Gadfly says you three or four will never reply with anything but trait remarks. Once you have been burned by the GadFly, it is difficult to recover. I think you fellows have gone beyond a cure. Grow up.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Aw, chin up, The Father Heathen still loves you.

Impossible! You're an atheist. You're as incapable of love as you are of logic!

And Gadfly, the Mball is still not responding so much to what you say, since that is pointless. I'm just hoping to get some more amusement out of you. I can't help but chuckle at most of your posts, and I still wonder sometimes whether you're actually serious. It's OK, though, if you don't have it in you, I'll just find amusement elsewhere.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Impossible! You're an atheist. You're as incapable of love as you are of logic!

And Gadfly, the Mball is still not responding so much to what you say, since that is pointless. I'm just hoping to get some more amusement out of you. I can't help but chuckle at most of your posts, and I still wonder sometimes whether you're actually serious. It's OK, though, if you don't have it in you, I'll just find amusement elsewhere.

The Father Heathen is all about the love and the logic. The Father Heathen also enjoys the Gadfly's zany antics, too. :yes:
 

n5division

New Member
ATHIESTS are ppl who i consider do not exist they don't belive in god and they blv that they will beom TREES wen they die lyk WT* dude!
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
Do you have an argument to make here or not? It almost sounds like you are prostylizing.
It was a statement I was responding to fear, the only fear I have is God and that is a reverent fear. I guess you can read whatever you like into a sentence. Prostylizing no only making a statement same as someone saying there is no God I said everyone would know there is.....No controversy intended....That was presumptuous on your part to accuse me of prostylizing......I think you may be the one with an argument.Most every post on here has some quote or special verse they like to use...so don't condemn me or wage an attack . If the Kitchen is too hot then get out or just tend to ignore me........I'm use to that......Thank you and I hope every post that everyone makes is exactly what you want to hear........Have a good day.....:shrug:
 

Yeshua_Lives

Left the Forum
Consider the influence an theistic opinion might have on a religious person or likewise. Are you comfortable in defending your position? What tools do believers have to defend the concept of God compared to the atheist's tools to defend his reasons for not believing in God?

Thanks to ALL atheists and skeptics. You are my friends. You are true helpers in strengthening my FAITH. :yes:
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Thanks to ALL atheists and skeptics. You are my friends. You are true helpers in strengthening my FAITH. :yes:
your welcome, however i am kinda pi*sed that you wont have eternal life but shall simply cease to exist.
Being Agnostic is the closest thing to the truth.
 
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Luminous

non-existential luminary
The believer has a better premise for his logic and the atheist has no premise for believing in anything.
the believers have their believe(something you think and sometimes want to be true) and atheists have their logic that the odds are there is no GOD as any religion puts it. It is clear that this Universe is self propeling, it has no need for a 'god'. As much as a creator can be eternal, the universe in its various forms could be eternal. Their premise is the facts that point to a universe that is self propeling, your premise is the fact that you can't see how the universe could have always existed but then contradict thy self by believing that a 'creator' always did.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
the believers have their believe(something you think and sometimes want to be true) and atheists have their logic that the odds are there is no GOD as any religion puts it. It is clear that this Universe is self propeling, it has no need for a 'god'. As much as a creator can be eternal, the universe in its various forms could be eternal. Their premise is the facts that point to a universe that is self propeling, your premise is the fact that you can't see how the universe could have always existed but then contradict thy self by believing that a 'creator' always did.

Well that is until the universe is sucked into a black hole, in which case the universe as we know it is no longer propelling from our perspective.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
I have observed, that a christian very often attracts a great multitude of people who are ready to pounce on them.


Can we avoid them? Well we dont have to.

Should we avoid them? Hell no.

Can they ignore us...yes.

Atheists can smell fear...he he...
 
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