Should Muslims be forbidden from practicing polygamy?

[Saint Frankenstein]

But that's no reason to deny their relationships legal recognition!

I already gave my reasons why plural marriage isn't a good idea. They're not the ones trying to push for plural marriage in the first place.

 

[Kirran]

I already gave my reasons why plural marriage isn't a good idea. They're not the ones trying to push for plural marriage in the first place.

Solid point.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So if a Muslim rapes someone, for example, they are an atheist?

Yes since they didn't follow the message of Islam

You're committing a No True Me Scotsman fallacy here. You don't get to disavow a self-identified Muslim's faith simply because they do something you don't like. Unless I'm mistaken, the Quran itself forbids Muslims from judging who is a worshipper of Allah - thus creating sectarian divides - so doing this makes you, ironically, a non-Muslim.

By your logic Muhammad wasn't a Muslim because he had a poet put to death for mocking him. Killing innocents is forbidden according to Islam, remember?

 

[Rival]

You're committing a No True Me Scotsman fallacy here. You don't get to disavow a self-identified Muslim simply because they do something you don't like. Unless I'm mistaken, the Quran itself forbids Muslims from judging who is a worshipper of Allah - thus creating sectarian divides - so doing this makes you, ironically, a non-Muslim.

By your logic Muhammad wasn't a Muslim because he had a poet put to death for mocking him. Killing innocents is forbidden according to Islam, remember?

You meant to aim this at Kirran?

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

The prophet Muhammad was a polygamist. Should there be laws that forbid Muslims from imitating their Prophet?

If you are a Muslim, you must have no objection to polygamy, right?because it was the practice of the Prophet whom God chose to bring the world the true Faith, it can't be a bad thing, right?

I don't really have any objection to polygamy and I am not a Muslim. What exactly is the objection to polygamy?

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Ah, now that verse is more appropriate to Christian thought.

But, to be fair, when I was Christian I just ignored Paul because I found him a repressive weirdo and hated how Christians quoted him more than the Gospels.

Yeah I always thought paul was at best out of place and at worst a false prophet who was trying to take away from the message of jesus and replace it with pure gibberish.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

I'm against polygamy in general.

May I ask why?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

May I ask why?

Because there tends to be inherent inequalities in it. I've never seen an example of plural relationships where everyone is really getting all their needs met - emotionally or otherwise. Someone nearly always ends up cheated in the end, if not outright used. There also tends to be a hierarchy within such relationships. Someone is favored over the others. It comes off as selfish, to me. Plus, it's a very privileged thing because who really has the time and other resources to invest in multiple relationships at the same time? A relationship with one person is enough work as it is.

So monogamy is my ideal.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Because there tends to be inherent inequalities in it. I've never seen an example of plural relationships where everyone is really getting all their needs met - emotionally or otherwise. Someone nearly always ends up cheated in the end, if not outright used. There also tends to be a hierarchy within such relationships. Someone is favored over the others. It comes off as selfish, to me. Plus, it's a very privileged thing because who really has the time and other resources to invest in multiple relationships at the same time? A relationship with one person is enough work as it is.

So monogamy is my ideal.

See the problem there is how can I have my harem. Think man THINK!

But no I do get what you mean and overall i'm not sure I would see the point in polygamy. If people want to do it that is another thing though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

See the problem there is how can I have my harem. Think man THINK!

But no I do get what you mean and overall i'm not sure I would see the point in polygamy. If people want to do it that is another thing though.

Yeah, people are going to do what they want in the end. But I personally don't encourage it. I know some people who do the open/poly relationship thing. In their case, they are hurting people, including a friend of mine and me in the past, and I don't wouldn't say that all such relationships are like that, but there's certain issues that seem built-in to them. In daily life, I tend to take a "live and let live" attitude while inwardly disagreeing with it.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Yeah, people are going to do what they want in the end. But I personally don't encourage it. I know some people who do the open/poly relationship thing. In their case, they are hurting people, including a friend of mine and me in the past, and I don't wouldn't say that all such relationships are like that, but there's certain issues that seem built-in to them. In daily life, I tend to take a "live and let live" attitude while inwardly disagreeing with it.

It's a fine line when the live and let live stops working. A dictatorship can be lovely when your dictator is lovely but it only lasts as long as the dictator themselves.
Kind of a side note but I really like the art in your signature.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You meant to aim this at Kirran?

No. I was including his question for context to show what FG was saying "Yes..." to.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It's a fine line when the live and let live stops working. A dictatorship can be lovely when your dictator is lovely but it only lasts as long as the dictator themselves.
Kind of a side note but I really like the art in your signature.

It's just not something I want to see encouraged, socially. Too many issues with it, imo. But that's my opinion.

Thanks.

 

[FearGod]

You're committing a No True Me Scotsman fallacy here. You don't get to disavow a self-identified Muslim's faith simply because they do something you don't like. Unless I'm mistaken, the Quran itself forbids Muslims from judging who is a worshipper of Allah - thus creating sectarian divides - so doing this makes you, ironically, a non-Muslim.

By your logic Muhammad wasn't a Muslim because he had a poet put to death for mocking him. Killing innocents is forbidden according to Islam, remember?

Judging people is different than knowing who's Muslim from non Muslim, I agree that
Judgement belong to God and not us.

You may pick up the false stories about the prophet but I don't have to agree with you.

 

[gnostic]

I don't have a problem with polygamy itself.

I don't think it is immoral to practise polygamy as oppose to monogamy.

What I do have a problem is Islam rule that only a man may have more than one wife, at the same time.

My problems is the inequality issue, the patriarchal issue and the misogynistic issue in Islam.

There shouldn't be such an idiotic one-sided rule in Islam, where there one rule for a man, a different rule for a woman.

I think the reason why Muslim men love polygamy is because they get away with have sex with many women, without being accused of committing adultery. It is a loophole for male Muslims.

Muslim women should have the same rights as their male counterparts, but that if they want to marry more than one man.

If a woman cannot have as many as 4 husbands, then a man shouldn't be able to have more one wife.