Should Muslims be forbidden from practicing polygamy?

[FearGod]

Yes. Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - Wikipedia

Do you think if you're called a Muslim or a Christian then you're really are?

 

[Kirran]

Do you think if you're called a Muslim or a Christian then you're really are?

I have no other metric by which to measure someone's adherence than self-identification.

 

[FearGod]

The only difference is that atheist do not say or appreciate or advocate that this is an order or god. Besides,since when,one night stands are counted as a ceremonial polygamy?

Sex with women without any relation, still legal polygamy is better for women than being treated like animals
by having one night and then finding another one ..etc

 

[FearGod]

I have no other metric by which to measure someone's adherence than self-identification.

That isn't always the case, you may find an atheist who has religion more than who claim
himself to be a religious person.

 

[Kirran]

That isn't always the case, you may find an atheist who has religion more than who claim
himself to be a religious person.

What does that mean?

 

[FearGod]

If this is the way you approach sex.

I don't make a relation with any woman for a single night which is an animal behavior and
you don't mind doing it since you aren't obliged to have a long term relationship.

 

[Kirran]

I don't make a relation with any woman for a single night which is an animal behavior and
you don't mind doing it since you aren't obliged to have a long term relationship.

While I'm not sure it's the best thing to be doing long term, if two people are both enthusiastic about having sex, and are responsible about it, what moral problem is there with it, even if it is just the one time?

 

[FearGod]

What does that mean?

Don't you ever heard that a priest raped a child?

 

[Kirran]

Don't you ever heard that a priest raped a child?

Yes. What does that have to do with religiosity? People can have no religion but have great moral values.

 

[FearGod]

While I'm not sure it's the best thing to be doing long term, if two people are both enthusiastic about having sex, and are responsible about it, what moral problem is there with it, even if it is just the one time?

And that will include having sex with many women whom you find interest in, how that is better
than polygamy?

 

[FearGod]

Yes. What does that have to do with religiosity? People can have no religion but have great moral values.

And that what I had said, the message is the guidance but never means it's the person
who claimed to be a follower of it.

 

[Kirran]

And that will include having sex with many women whom you find interest in, how that is better
than polygamy?

No, incorrect. That's a misogynistic take on what I said, because it ignores the very important fact that the women involved also have a say in this.

I didn't say polygamy was bad anyway, I only think there's a problem with it when it's an expression of patriarchal misogynistic social expectations.

And that what I had said, the message is the guidance but never means it's the person
who claimed to be a follower of it.

Right, you've kind of lost me, what was the point you were trying to make regarding atheism?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I don't make a relation with any woman for a single night which is an animal behavior and
you don't mind doing it since you aren't obliged to have a long term relationship.

Animals can be in committed relationships.

And that will include having sex with many women whom you find interest in, how that is better
than polygamy?

It's more honest, in my opinion. If you just want to have sex with lots of people, why not just do it and not bother with getting a government to recognize "official" relationships?

 

[FearGod]

No, incorrect. That's a misogynistic take on what I said, because it ignores the very important fact that the women involved also have a say in this.

I didn't say polygamy was bad anyway, I only think there's a problem with it when it's an expression of patriarchal misogynistic social expectations.

I don't agree with you since woman can be separated from her husband and choose another one,
so still she can has as many husbands as she wishes but the difference that such practice should
be legalized and not be in secret(infidelity).

Right, you've kind of lost me, what was the point you were trying to make regarding atheism?

The freedom to have multiple sex relationships.

 

[Kirran]

I don't agree with you since woman can be separated from her husband and choose another one,
so still she can has as many husbands as she wishes but the difference that such practice should
be legalized and not be in secret(infidelity).

Yeah, we shouldn't shame people for having sex, agreed. That way it doesn't need to be kept secret. Casual sex is probably more honest than serial marriage in many cases.

The freedom to have multiple sex relationships.

What does that have to do with atheism? Most people who aren't religious aren't atheists.

 

[FearGod]

Animals can be in committed relationships.

Humans can have more than one relationship but honesty should be involved.

It's more honest, in my opinion. If you just want to have sex with lots of people, why not just do it and not bother with getting a government to recognize "official" relationships?

If your wife or husband knows that then no problem, such as saying to your husband I'm
going to sleep this night with our neighbor, please take care about the children till morning, good night my sweet heart.

 

[FearGod]

Yeah, we shouldn't shame people for having sex, agreed. That way it doesn't need to be kept secret. Casual sex is probably more honest than serial marriage in many cases.

If you're honest with your partner then no problem, but cheating is the bad thing.

What does that have to do with atheism? Most people who aren't religious aren't atheists.

My view to Atheism is different than yours, not believing in God or rejecting God can be in
the human's minds and/or which belief getting it right,

Atheism to me is disobeying the heavenly laws which even the religious people may do.

 

[Kirran]

If you're honest with your partner then no problem, but cheating is the bad thing.

Agreed.

My view to Atheism is different than yours, not believing in God or rejecting God can be in
the human's minds and/or which belief getting it right,

Atheism to me is disobeying the heavenly laws which even the religious people may do.

So if a Muslim rapes someone, for example, they are an atheist?

 

[FearGod]

So if a Muslim rapes someone, for example, they are an atheist?

Yes since they didn't follow the message of Islam, the point is that we don't know
God, what he is, what he looks like, or simply we know nothing about the nature of
God, so the thing isn't about God but about the message of God which we may
follow or reject.

 

[Kirran]

Yes since they didn't follow the message of Islam, the point is that we don't know
God, what he is, what he looks like, or simply we know nothing about the nature of
God, so the thing isn't about God but about the message of God which we may
follow or reject.

I think the term atheist is probably not the best one to use here. It's a theological term.