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Should Prostitution be legal?

Should prostitution be legal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 86.2%
  • No

    Votes: 4 13.8%

  • Total voters
    29

Kirran

Premium Member
I'll stand by saying that Money is a medium of coercion. But legalisation does make it safer I guess. Thats the only reason I'd support it in practice.

Likewise.

Although the way you're putting it here we're really approaching criticism of wage labour in general.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Likewise.

Although the way you're putting it here we're really approaching criticism of wage labour in general.

I agree but its just that prostitution is a particularly vicious form of wage labour in that it attacks a persons bodily automomy by putting a price on it. Its such a gross violation of everything free sexuality as the realisation of a person should be about.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Has anyone considered the perception of woman? For decades people, mostly women, have been fighting against the objectification and sexualization of all women. It is ironic to make a symbol of both into legal career choice.

Now for some emotional pandering!

Picture your child in a school room discussing what jobs they want when they grow up. You may have had such a discussion when you were young. As each child takes their turn your child hears about various jobs. Jimmy wants to be a pilot. Jenny want to be a doctor. Bobby want to be a lawyer (he is the kid no one likes) then Sally speak up. "I want to be a prostitute!"

Have fun with that conversation and enjoy the year books.
 
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Kirran

Premium Member
Has anyone considered the perception of woman? For decades people, mostly women, have been fighting against the objectification and sexualization of all women. It is ironic to make a symbol of both into legal career choice.

Now for some emotional pandering!

Picture your child in a school room discussing what jobs they want when they grow up. You may have had such a discussion when you were young. As each child takes their turn your child hears about various jobs. Jimmy wants to be a pilot. Jenny want to be a doctor. Bobby want to be a lawyer (he is the kid no one likes) then Sally speak up. "I want to be a prostitute!"

Have fun with that conversation and enjoy the year books.

I don't think anybody here is advocating for prostitution.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Voting to make something legal is a form of advocacy. Supporting the legalization of something is advocacy. The poll shows 22 for, 4 against. 22 advocates.

Well I am informing you directly I do not advocate prostitution. Neither do I advocate the use of recreational drugs. But I support the legalisation of both.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'll stand by saying that Money is a medium of coercion.
That's too extreme a take on money. Analogy time....
By offering money to my grocer, am I coercing him into letting me steal bacon?
No it's voluntary exchange....he offers bacon for a price, & I pay it....I'm purchasing
bacon, not committing a crime. Similarly, a prostitute offers a service for a price.
To call it "rape" isn't realistic.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
That's too extreme a take on money. Analogy time....
By offering money to my grocer, am I coercing him into letting me steal bacon?
No it's voluntary exchange....he offers bacon for a price, & I pay it....I'm purchasing
bacon, not committing a crime. Similarly, a prostitute offers a service for a price.
To call it "rape" isn't realistic.

Especially if she/he offers bacon on the side.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's too extreme a take on money. Analogy time....
By offering money to my grocer, am I coercing him into letting me steal bacon?
No it's voluntary exchange....he offers bacon for a price, & I pay it....I'm purchasing
bacon, not committing a crime. Similarly, a prostitute offers a service for a price.
To call it "rape" isn't realistic.

How much money will it take for your grocer to strip naked and make rough, hard sex on the counter?

I mean your paying for the best customer service right?:D
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
How much money will it take for your grocer to strip naked and make rough, hard sex on the counter?
Clearly, that depends on the grocer.


Rich Dude: Hey baby you're hot! Wanna go to my place and screw?

Goodlooking Woman: No! And my husband is right here.

RD: What if I give you a million dollars?

GL: (confers with husband)
Well, Ok. But only once.

RD: How about for two dollars?

GL: No! What do you think I am?

RD: We've already established that. Now we're just haggling.

:)
Tom
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Thanks for your honesty.

Something happening regardless of legality does not follow that it should be legal.

No, but as I've explained I think that seeing as it's happening either way I'd rather it could be regulated in an attempt to ameliorate the damage than pushed underground. Think of it as being similar to Prohibition in some ways.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No, but as I've explained I think that seeing as it's happening either way I'd rather it could be regulated in an attempt to ameliorate the damage than pushed underground. Think of it as being similar to Prohibition in some ways.

You are drawing upon the slimiest of similarities. This is called parallelism and is a flawed method of analysis. Prohibition outlawed what was once legal, alcohol. Consumption of alcohol is shared by the general population more than using prostitutes will ever be. One reasons it was put into place is due to what they say as the degeneration of society while you want to normalize it.

If you want to resolve the damage you focus on why people become prostitutes not enable them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You are drawing upon the slimiest of similarities. This is called parallelism and is a flawed method of analysis. Prohibition outlawed what was once legal, alcohol. Consumption of alcohol is shared by the general population more than using prostitutes will ever be. One reasons it was put into place is due to what they say as the degeneration of society while you want to normalize it.

If you want to resolve the damage you focus on why people become prostitutes not enable them.
A deal...
I'll work on making it legal.
You'll work on changing people to not want to be or hire prostitutes.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Don't you think that if prostitution is legal, it can damage society?
Why? People can sell any of their other skills and talents for the benefit of those who want them, for whatever reasons. Why should sex be so very different?

And look at it from the other side: think of the older, perhaps no longer attractive, or shy, or undesirable-for-whatever-reason individual who has lost a spouse, and looks for some of that comfort again I his or her life? Why would you think it so wrong that they should be able to trade something they have (money) to get that something they really desire and truly long for?

Or would you recommend some sort of charity, a SallyAnn for sex workers, to provide that on a charitable basis, like a soup kitchen?

Or do you suppose their loss of a spouse and unattractiveness is God's way of saying, "you've already had enough -- now go be celibate!"?
 
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