Limo
Active Member
Hundreds of millions are hurting you!!!!!
Do you know how many muslims in ISIS and other radical groups?
By the way many Muslims sees the above response that you liked some how is extreme thoughts
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Should Sharia Law be forbidden in Non-Muslim (Western) countries?
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Do you know how many muslims in ISIS and other radical groups?
By the way many Muslims sees the above response that you liked some how is extreme thoughts
Limo
Active Member
We've a severe problem.... Many atheists don't expose their identity in public and pertain they're Muslims
The guy is one of them
He blames Islam
Limo
Active Member
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Most of Western writings about Islam are distortion of Islam
Notanumber
A Free Man
Indeed. Most go out of their way to give it more good will than it has earned.
Limo, First off, notice that *you* brought up ISIS and radical groups. That's not who I had in mind at all
(Interesting where our own biases come up!)I'm worried about the hundreds of millions of Islamists in the world. The folks that want Sharia to be the law of the land.
Limo
Active Member
OkLimo, First off, notice that *you* brought up ISIS and radical groups. That's not who I had in mind at all
I'm worried about the hundreds of millions of Islamists in the world. The folks that want Sharia to be the law of the land.
These hundreds of millions are the majority of muslims. Approximately all muslims.
Muslims seeking applying Sharia law inualim countries only.
The Muslim in western countries seeking Sharia in personal affairs that don't affect society
It's fare request
Yes, we see how wonderful life is in countries with a strong Sharia influence. We see that Muslims can't even be at peace with each other in such countries. Think about how well the Sunni and the Shia treat each other.
As far as allowing Muslims living in secular countries to use Sharia... no it's not a fair request at all. It's a supremacist, preposterous and insincere request.
Limo
Active Member
The wonderful life in counties with a strong Sharia is because of whom ?
Syria is a secular country. The mess there is because direct support of (Russia, China,,, ) and indirect support of (Israel, US, Europe, and tyrants ).
The wonderful life in Iraqi because US forged WMD risk in Iraqi.
The wonderful life in Afghanistan is because US decided to punish a whole country because of one person and his group.
The wonderful life in Saudia Arabia because US is protecting the royal family
The wonderful life in Egypt because US decided to remove the free elected president because he's Islamist and supported a military cope.
If Muslims living in west wants to marry, divorce, wear Islamic clothes, pray, die and buried according to Sharia is not supremacist, preposterous and insincere request.
Other religious minorities like Jews, Hindus, Sikh, Buddhist can apply their rules freely and it's respected
Hi @Limo ,
because, because, because...
Even if, for the sake of discussion, I agreed that ALL of Syria's and Iraq's and Afghanistan's and SA's and Egypt's problems were due to "the West", Islam still would have a really bad record. (Now, for the record, I believe that "western interventions" have definitely had a huge negative effect in the countries you mentioned, but those interventions are only one factor of many.)
Tell me the Muslim majority country that you think is a model for how Islam should rule?
because, because, because...
Even if, for the sake of discussion, I agreed that ALL of Syria's and Iraq's and Afghanistan's and SA's and Egypt's problems were due to "the West", Islam still would have a really bad record. (Now, for the record, I believe that "western interventions" have definitely had a huge negative effect in the countries you mentioned, but those interventions are only one factor of many.)
Tell me the Muslim majority country that you think is a model for how Islam should rule?
Limo
Active Member
I agree with you the western intervention is not the only reason but Islam as religion is not one of the reason. Why ?
The opposite is true, absence of Sharia is the main reason for these issues
Unfortunately, there is no good model in the time being
When in history has a Sharia governed country been successful by modern standards?
Akivah
Well-Known Member
The "problem" is that you believe that any Muslims that disagree with your opinions are not true Muslims.
I disagree in the most emphatic terms.
Islam and by extension Sharia are a major contributor to the permanent turmoil in the Islamic world.
It teaches to always perceive the world by the lens of a clear distinction between Muslims and Kuffar.
It insists on surrendering one's judgement to the presumed promise from God.
It has way too nationalistic and militaristic a perspective for anyone's good.
It teaches mistrust and paranoia by way of its weird, poisonous cult of monotheism for monotheism's sake, regardless of people's actual beliefs and vocations.
It is supremacist and xenophobous in its tribalistic ethics.
And last but not least, it occupies the place where a religion might exist.
As is to be expected.
From the perspective of Islam, such an attitude is to be commended, despite being inherently dishonest. Because it protects the reputation of Islam, even if at the expense of its actual moral integrity.
Muslims are taught - usually to the point of effective derangement, it would seem - that Islam is literally perfect and that whatever might be wrong with it is undeniably the fault of "men".
That facts consistently indicate otherwise is apparently an insignificant detail to be disregarded by "the pure of heart".
In other words, fanaticism is not a flaw in Islam. It is a necessary part of the recipe for a proper Muslim.
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Exactly. Some of us would label it a design "feature".
As a Shia I would say this:
1. Sharia Law becomes a scary word because Islam was Hijacked since the death of its prophet..The world need to read Islam, not to see its fake Muslim rulers.
2. Sharia Law is a whole system..It can't be implemented selectively. You need to first has an Islamic ruler who really knows Islam and Islamic government who know the Islamic Laws..and According to the Shiites only the prophet and his appointed Imams are capable of establishing an Islamic government.
1. Sharia Law becomes a scary word because Islam was Hijacked since the death of its prophet..The world need to read Islam, not to see its fake Muslim rulers.
2. Sharia Law is a whole system..It can't be implemented selectively. You need to first has an Islamic ruler who really knows Islam and Islamic government who know the Islamic Laws..and According to the Shiites only the prophet and his appointed Imams are capable of establishing an Islamic government.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Thread question should have the option of ''should sharia law be allowed''. (anywhere)
Limo
Active Member
Called "Modern standards" shouldn't be applied on previous time.
Tell me, who defined what do you call "modern standards"? And on what basis?
If you mean modern standards according to Western rules, I tell you keep it for West only. It's not our standards
Then tell me which Muslim majority country you think is a good demonstration of a peaceful Islam in which its people are flourishing?