Don Penguinoini
Modi.
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Should Spanking Your Children Be Illegal?
- Thread starter Mister_T
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fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
Wouldn't that kinda follow suit though? If they make it against the law, then they would likely make it like a battery or some kind of assault charge. Now here in Illinois the charge could be a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the severity of the assault. Now in any case, the people do have to go to court though to settle the matter, and of course the court is gonna take whose side?
I think it is wrong to hit a child for whatever reason. I do think it should be against the law the same way it is against the law to hit anyone else. However the welfare of the child must also be taking in to account. I would like to see courses on how to raise a child without having to resort to spanking etc. It can be done have you ever seen Supernanny? That Jo Frost person can control any child and never once has to raise her voice or resort to violence.
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
Yes I have seen the show. See in my world, the two are not mutually exclusive. I don't see why the two can't be done. Of course I am pro-spanking so to say, but that doesn't mean that I am against doing other forms of discipline as well. In fact I prefer other forms of punishment many more times to a spanking, but I still think that if that's where I gotta take it I shouldn't be receiving any kind of punishment from law enforcment though. What it has the potential to create is homes where parents are afraid to discipline their children, when other forms of discipline fail to work.
My wife went 13 years without spanking our daughter. She got into a disagreement with her driving home from a clothes shopping trip at the mall. I was told my daughter cussed and even threatened to be violent with her mother.
Mom pulled the car over on the interstate, I am told and the situation was quickly resolved.
She has never cussed me, and I doubt she ever will. I don't spank her, but I reserve that right as a parent to this day still and she knows it is a possibility.
All children test boundaries. Being consistent is the key to successfully raising a child, not warming their backside every day or two.
Many parents who spank have allowed their children to get out of control in the first place. You cannot ignore them and then go ballistic on them.
Some children act out because they crave attention. Any kind of attention. That is truly sad.
Mom pulled the car over on the interstate, I am told and the situation was quickly resolved.
She has never cussed me, and I doubt she ever will. I don't spank her, but I reserve that right as a parent to this day still and she knows it is a possibility.
All children test boundaries. Being consistent is the key to successfully raising a child, not warming their backside every day or two.
Many parents who spank have allowed their children to get out of control in the first place. You cannot ignore them and then go ballistic on them.
Some children act out because they crave attention. Any kind of attention. That is truly sad.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
I..I..I don't, i am a perfect child.
Okay, I don't think it should be made illegal to spank your child as it would do more harm and cause more trouble than good or it would be a waste of time. However I must also state that just because I wouldn't want it to be illegal doesn't mean I am in favor of it. In fact I am very much against it due to my own personal experience with getting spanked. My dad spanked me maybe 3 or 4 times in my whole life and it only impacted me negatively. Sure it got me to do what I was told at the moment but it also made me afraid of my dad while I was young. Not the kind of fear where I didn't want anything to do with him, I love my dad and we are very close now but I personally feel that him spanking me made it harder for us to develope a close relationship when I was younger. Yeah I turned out alright, yeah there wasn't any permanent damage, I wasn't turned into a psycopath because of it or anything but in myexperience it did cause more harm than good as after getting spanked I would obey my dad because I didn't want to get spanked again not because I had realized that what I did was wrong. Becasue of my experience I completely refuse to raise my hand to any future children of mine as personally I think it is hurtful rather than helpful and that there are far better ways. I personally bow to the wisdom of the supper nanny and her ability to discipline without ever have to hit or shout at a child. I don't hold it against my father or having spanked me and perhaps it works for some people but just because it works doesn't mean there are better ways to get your child's attention.
Your point luke?
Hillbilly
Member
My paw would take us out to the woodshed when he decided we needed it. It would really hurt when he was drunk. One day I took a beating for my younger sister cause she dropped his pipe and broke it. She had just become a woman and I didn't think she could handle his beatings anymore. The next time he came for me I used my fists on him and that was the last time he tried it.
I decided then that I would never spank my kids. I'm proud to say that they turned out just fine without it.
I decided then that I would never spank my kids. I'm proud to say that they turned out just fine without it.
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
Exactly. Abuse under the guise of discipline is unacceptable, and instead of making a blamket law that targets parents who would never abuse their children, perhaps the states should focus on enforcing the laws they already have on the books a little better. If they did that, I think more kids can be saved from that.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm sure there is at least one right person who wants it banned.
Also, not all leftist want it banned.
methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
I'm not directing this at you personally, so please don't take it that way...
How many times does a teacher repeat the multiplication tables with the students? Only 3 times? No - it's repeated as many times as is needed to learn them.
That's why I think it's weak to give up after 3 tries to then resort to spanking. If a teacher can be patient enough to go through those tables countless times, then any parent should be able to.
Mister_T said:
I saw the hypocrisy in other parents spanking their kids very early. Actually I was talking to mum today and she said I was about 3-4 years when I basically pointed out the hypocrisy in one of my friends parents spanking them.
And what do you mean by "most of the people who have been disciplined"? I hope you are not implying that discipline is not possible without spanking... Just because I was never spanked doesn't mean I wasn't disciplined!
I feel that spanking should NEVER be an option.
Like the example of Supernanny. Never does she hit the child. Instead she has a "naughty corner". Of course it doesn't work the very first time! Some kids need to be brought back to the spot over the course of 2-3 hours before they learn. THAT is true strength and display of leadership and authority. THAT is why I say it is weak to exchange those 2-3 hours into a simple near-painless slap on the bum and they're free to go. Aside from that, the "naughty corner" gives the child time to reflect on exactly why they're there! A slap on the bum is "Ok, you did wrong but you're punished now so it's ok". The naughty corner says "You've done wrong. Sit here and think about it. Then say sorry". I feel that if any parent says the naughty corner doesn't work, they haven't put in enough energy into making it work. Persistence and patience. Seriously, what is a few hours trying to make it work in the 18 years you're going to have them around!?
blackout
Violet.
The only times I have ever "hit" my kids
have been to deeply instil a point of safety.
Like running out into the parking lot.
Slamming doors near their siblings fingers.
etc etc.
Because I do not "hit" them for any other reasons,
the point is well instilled,
and they are more likely to remember.
Regarding other things,
I try to let the natural consequences of their behavior
do the teaching for them.
ie... they will NOT pick up their toys.
The house is always a disaster!
Now the majority of toys are going up into the locked attic.
They will have to ask me to get what they want...
and I will ONLY get it
if everything else is picked up first.
Otherwise no new toys.
Just makes sense to learn that way.
have been to deeply instil a point of safety.
Like running out into the parking lot.
Slamming doors near their siblings fingers.
etc etc.
Because I do not "hit" them for any other reasons,
the point is well instilled,
and they are more likely to remember.
Regarding other things,
I try to let the natural consequences of their behavior
do the teaching for them.
ie... they will NOT pick up their toys.
The house is always a disaster!
Now the majority of toys are going up into the locked attic.
They will have to ask me to get what they want...
and I will ONLY get it
if everything else is picked up first.
Otherwise no new toys.
Just makes sense to learn that way.
OK, I'm going to take a big swig of kool-aid and climb out on a limb.
What is going to happen then? I spank my child, they call the cops, I get a ticket, I spank my child again.......man, this new law really works.
:bow:All hail super nanny:bow:
I have to agree with you. For those of you have said spanking should be a last resort I can't help but think that if it were truly a last resort it would not be used at all.
:bow:All hail super nanny:bow:
I have to agree with you. For those of you have said spanking should be a last resort I can't help but think that if it were truly a last resort it would not be used at all.
If we could amend this to almost never, I can get on board.