Have you ever seen Supernanny? She finds the worst kids she can and basically shows their parents how to raise their kids properly and it seems to work without fail.
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Should Spanking Your Children Be Illegal?
- Thread starter Mister_T
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I will have to check it out. I love it when people get their act together and bloom like the wonderful folks they are.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
You completely missed the point.
penguino, you would love the three stooges if you ever got the chance to watch the old episodes.
McBell
Unbound
Count the hits and ignore the misses.
I would love to see the episodes where she fails.
Of course, those will not likely be aired, now will they?
Like I said in my first post on this thread... it might work for some people but just because it works doesn't mean there's not a better alternative. I don't support the law anymore than you do but that's simply because I feel it would either be a waste of time to try and pass it or it would cause more harm than good with getting parents arrested or fined for slapping their kid on the bum and those who really do abuse their kids won't follow it as clearly they aren't following the other laws about child abuse. I don't consider a few swats on the bum abusive per say but I still don't think it is right and would never use it on my children. I have this view because of my own personal experience with it though and don't doubt that others who have had different experiences will see it differently.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
I highly doubt she fails. I'm pretty sure she's has specailised in child psychology (But I may be wrong). Her methods make too much sense to fail. And as far as I'm concerned, there are some real bad kids she deals with - much worse than I could imagine. And to correct their behaviour is a huge achievement.
Like I've said before, persistence and patience will see that her methods don't fail. What will fail is chopping and changing between methods and two parents being on different pages.
McBell
Unbound
I am not disagreeing with her methods or the over all message of the show.
However, do you think they will air this episode:
News flash! Reality TV shows won't solve every crisis! One family found out the hard way, when their wacky kid set fire to the family home -- after appearing on the TV show "Supernanny." Burn!
Supernanny Jo Frost -- who appears on both British and American versions of the show -- visited Paul and Susan Young and their five children in 2005 in their UK home. Frost attempted to help the Youngs tame their rambunctious boys, all under age 11, but mom said that appearing on the show made the kids behave worse and play up to cameras.
The fire appears to have been started by 3-year-old Joel while he was home with mother Susan, and his siblings were in school. Damage to the home was so severe that the family was forced to move into a hotel. Is "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" casting?!
The fire started in the kitchen, said Essex police officer Terry Hutton. As Young attempted to put the fire out, "the little boy went through the dining room and set fire to the curtains," reports the Daily Mail.
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Supernanny Jo Frost -- who appears on both British and American versions of the show -- visited Paul and Susan Young and their five children in 2005 in their UK home. Frost attempted to help the Youngs tame their rambunctious boys, all under age 11, but mom said that appearing on the show made the kids behave worse and play up to cameras.
The fire appears to have been started by 3-year-old Joel while he was home with mother Susan, and his siblings were in school. Damage to the home was so severe that the family was forced to move into a hotel. Is "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" casting?!
The fire started in the kitchen, said Essex police officer Terry Hutton. As Young attempted to put the fire out, "the little boy went through the dining room and set fire to the curtains," reports the Daily Mail.
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I guess it will boil down to a matter of opinion, then.methalaytedghosts said:
I meant most of the people who have been diciplined by spanking. And no, discipline without spanking is not impossible, but that is situational and cannot be applied to all.methalaytedghosts said:
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
Frubals mesty!! Uh, can we get a time out for those curtains young man?! No new tranSformer toys for you today and NO SWEETS!
Seriously I don't know if I would blame the nanny, but I know this- when I was 5 I set the kitchen curtains on fire. Mom was there but I snuck out of the room and pretended to go to the bathroom. She was cooking at the time, and I was curious to fire so I got a piece of paper towel and lit it on the burner. Well I got scared after it kept burning (stupid kid) and threw it into the PLASTIC garbage but not before it hit the curtains and lit them. Well, I had to go into the room and tell mom what I did. Luckily the damage wasn't that bad only the curtains and the garbage had to be replaced. I got the whoopin of a lifetime for that and let me tell you, I never ever set anything on fire ever again. After the spanking mom did explain why the fire was dangerous but I didn't need her explaination after that cuz I saw firsthand that it scared me.
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
methylatedghost said:
Then again OTOH why do I have to wrangle and negotiate with a __ year old for 3 hours just to get you to do something I want you to do? That's a slight problem in my book anyway. Why is it that it takes 3 hours for you to get your toys out of the middle of the floor? Why did I have to negotiate that with you? Why can't I issue a command and get it done without taking the whole day to get through to you? I don't have all day to spend on that. Maybe I have other kids who need my attention as well, and I can't devote that kind of time trying to figure out why you're having such an issue with doing what I say.
Spanking, breastfeeding, sleep training, potty training, etc., etc., etc.......... different talking points, same argument with all these issues: kids are horrible nasty little creatures and parents are just too plain stupid to do anything about it.
The central theme behind all these arguments are what I officially take a stance against. Parents overall are NOT stupid, and children overall are NOT horrible nasty creatures.
As a wise chicken once said on these forums regarding the issue of raising children: (paraphrasing) Isn't there a grey area somewhere, and shouldn't we perhaps acknowledge it more often than we do?
Peace,
Mystic
The central theme behind all these arguments are what I officially take a stance against. Parents overall are NOT stupid, and children overall are NOT horrible nasty creatures.
As a wise chicken once said on these forums regarding the issue of raising children: (paraphrasing) Isn't there a grey area somewhere, and shouldn't we perhaps acknowledge it more often than we do?
Peace,
Mystic
Any particular posts that stand out in your mind?
Ohhhh, you're good.
[sarcasm]I'll just go back to corrupting my daughter in her homeschooling, neglecting my autistic son by restricting him from prescription drug use, confusing my kids' ethics by applauding them when they beat up a bully, and inhibiting spiritual continuity in their religious life by encouraging them to find their own spiritual path and to support it actively.
Lord knows I've corrupted them already with extended nursing, the family bed, and the occasional swat on the butt. To add insult to injury, we talk about sex.......a LOT.[/sarcasm]
Back to regular programming.
Peace,
Mystic
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
You know im 13, right? How very dare you!
Sweetheart, did you read the rest of my post?
MysticSang'ha said:
And I will take that to my grave. :hug:
Peace,
Mystic
madhatter85
Transhumanist
I WILL spank my kids when they get out of line.
I WILL punish them according to thier disruptive behavior.
I WILL NOT abuse my children verbally, physically or otherwise.
I WILL NOT put up with my children who are being unruly
I WILL purposely embarrass them according to thier behavior in public if they get out of line, because it embarasses me.
My children will KNOW that the amount of beatings they get will be proportional to the amoutn of crying they exhibit.
I WILL punish them according to thier disruptive behavior.
I WILL NOT abuse my children verbally, physically or otherwise.
I WILL NOT put up with my children who are being unruly
I WILL purposely embarrass them according to thier behavior in public if they get out of line, because it embarasses me.
My children will KNOW that the amount of beatings they get will be proportional to the amoutn of crying they exhibit.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Yes, i was just joking, oh well, i will refrain from joking next time, sorry.