It does, because the *MENU* is *WRITTEN PROOF* I am correct. WORDS IN WRITING ARE PROOF! Why do you think they have things like contracts?
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Should Tipping be Banned?
- Thread starter Falvlun
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It does, because the *MENU* is *WRITTEN PROOF* I am correct. WORDS IN WRITING ARE PROOF! Why do you think they have things like contracts?
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Then you can go to her restaurant and leave me the hell alone...
Use your eyes to correct your grammar... Your GED is showing...
I also noticed how you didn't respond to my other post, because you know what you are doing is unfair. You aren't going in order. You are not leaving each table after each one and going to the computer, so that's cutting and it *IS* unfair. You expect customers to pay you well, you have to show them FAIRNESS, otherwise, why should they pay you well?
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
How is that "cutting"? I still put the first table's order in first... And they still get their drinks on time, just not out of my hand personally. You obviously have yet to comprehend anything I've said in favor of rambling on about things I don't do...
I'd give her $20 christmas bonuses and other times extra money on the side, because she'd play fair. Life is not about free stuff. I care more about my time than the free appetizers or desserts.
I have an associates degree and graduated high school in 1995. I haven't been good with grammar, but you aren't good with knowing how turns work, well I'd rather be a better person than have the best grammar skills, because I am much better, kinder person than you will EVER BE! I would not be a cutter like you are and be unfair to my customers if I were a server.
Because if you went to the 2nd table instead of the computer, that's ************TIME*********** you are cutting for that 2nd table that you are not putting in the 1st table's order, DUHHH!
WHY do I have to explain this? So that means I can go up to you and ask for some refills, you would stop taking that person's order to get my refills and think that's not cutting, WTH???
No, they won't get their drinks on time if you are going to all 3 tables BEFORE going to the computer to put their bar drink orders in or if it's non-bar drinks, if you get a tray of drinks for all 3 tables, you are cutting. You should be making one trip for each table, NOT one trip for all 3 tables.
For example(double sat), table 1 is first orders 2 cokes when greeted along with a bar drink and appetizer, doing it mine and Stef319's way which is the fair way, I would tell table 2 I would be right with them, go to the computer to put in the bar drink and appetizer, then go get their 2 cokes, come back to the table 1. If they aren't ready to order, then I'd go to table 2, if they were ready to order, I'd take their food order and go put it into the computer. Then go to table 2, greet them and get their drinks orders, which I would go put their appetizer order in since they decided on an appetizer during that time. I'd get the drinks, come back, and take their order, then go put their order into the computer.
Doing it your way, you'd go to table 1, then table 2 rather than going to the computer to put the bar drink and appetizer order that was for table 1 into the computer so it could get started.
You are cutting, because that's *TIME* you are taking up to not go put the order in, understand doing it your way instead of the *FAIR* way, huh?
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
And yet again... I ask a runner or another server to grab the first table's drinks for me while I'm on my way to the second table. The only thing that takes a little longer is the food order being put in, which they are compensated for if it becomes an issue(which it rarely does because they can see that I'm busy and most people are more considerate than you). You keep blatantly disregarding the fact that I said this so you can ramble on about how "unfair" I am and use the same played-out example about your refills...
Why do you think that giving something away for free is going to compensate for my longer wait? It's not, because I don't want the free stuff. Plus, how are you going to make money when the bill is going to be lower and how is the business going to make money giving away everything?
Why not just go right after you get the food order and go put it into the computer? WHY do you want to avoid that? Why not just go to the computer after each order? This way, you won't have to give them something for free and they will be happier that their *TIME* wasn't compromised that at times people don't have to time to do this. You made them late for a movie because you wanted to be unfair and give them a free appetizer, yeah, that's real nice and considerate, huh? NOT!!
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
You don't want free stuff; that's your problem. Most normal people are delighted by it. And I still make money because I get good tips... The managers don't mind the comp because most of my tables come back for me later and the restaurant gets return business. You clearly have no idea how this industry works... But any IDIOT can understand it, right?
Because walking across the restaurant and dodging other servers/customers 3 separate times to use the computer takes longer than walking the 3 feet to the next table... If I do it your way, everybody's orders take longer to get put in. But that's OK, because I'm being "fair", right?:sarcastic
If you go to a restaurant when being 5 minutes off some presumed "perfect" schedule will make you late for your movie, that's poor planning on your part. It's not as if every time you go to a restaurant everything takes the exact same amount of time... And yes, my tables do find that to be very nice and considerate... People love getting things for free, and a lot of my tables are repeat customers that ask for me specifically.
You don't want free stuff; that's your problem. Most normal people are delighted by it. And I still make money because I get good tips... The managers don't mind the comp because most of my tables come back for me later and the restaurant gets return business. You clearly have no idea how this industry works... But any IDIOT can understand it, right?
I have got news for you, I bet if you asked your customers, they'd rather not have the longer wait and you know it!
No, you even ADMITTED that the 1st table gets to wait longer, you admitted so!
So NO, it doesn't take longer for the 1st table.
No, that's on *YOUR* part for CUTTING(going out of order of turns on PURPOSE).
It could have taken the same amount of time if you would do like Stef319 does.
So what they love you, great, most people don't want to wait longer for their stuff. I would rather have Stef319 ANY DAY over someone like you so I can SUFFER WITH MY TIME just to get that $6 free dessert or $8 free appetizer. It's SOOOO NOT WORTH IT! Most people feel the same way and you know it!
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
You're literally the only person I've ever heard say they would turn down a free dessert/app so they didn't have to wait an extra 3-5 minutes... Where is this vast majority that agrees with you? They have yet to sit at any of my tables...
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Yeah, better to be just the first table than the 2nd AND the third as well... I'd rather make the first table wait 3-5 minutes than make the third table wait 8-10. I'm sure you would feel the same way if you were sitting at the third table, seeing as your time is so precious to you... But whatever... You're right, I'm wrong. You know WAY more about how to do my job than I ever could, because you work in an office... I'm done arguing with you; it's truly hopeless.
Here's someone right here:
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Scottstribalr said:
If it was worth his time, he would have made the server do it. See how most people don't agree here. I had a cashier at Walmart say that "You waited in this line for 20 cents", because most people wouldn't feel it's worth their time. They don't care if i'ts $5, it's not worth their time.
How many people would bring back 30 cokes to save $5.00, because now they are on sale? While I would, not many people would and you know it. It's not worth their time or effort. I am not talking about making another trip to the store just for that, I am talking about on their normal shopping trip.
Most people if they have even $5 overcharge, some won't feel it's worth the time of getting it fixed. You know what I am saying is the GOD'S TRUTH!
You are a CUTTER! That third table is NOT ABOVE US! If we were at the third table, I would notice and realize I'd have to wait OUR TURN to be *FAIR*!
I'd rather not cut so I can have my customers leave faster, make more tips because I treated them with *FAIRNESS*, and rather be CONSIDERATE not a cutter like you are.
Also, you think it's only 3-5 minutes, it's not.
The Outback situation, this is what happened. We got seated at 5p.m. exactly. Our waiter didn't come until 5:03p.m. Didn't get our ONLY 2 cokes until 5:10-5:11p.m. because the waiter decided also to get all 9 drinks on one tray and then had the GALL to hand a lady at the 2nd table her's first. THAT ****** me off to no end just for the PRINCIPLE of it. So by the time he finished getting our orders, the 2nd table's 5 people's orders, and then the 3rd, it was probably around 5:15p.m and you know it. So 8 minutes of delays he did instead of being able to put in our orders into the computer at 5:07p.m. instead(that would have been around the time we would have finished giving our food orders and he would have been putting the food orders into the computer.
That's closer to 10 minutes of delays.
I'd rather be fair and do the morally right thing. WHY are you sooo concerned with the 3rd table? When you are 3rd in line, you sure don't get to go first, WHY should in this situation? It's not fair!
Why is the 3rd table QUEENS AND KINGS, but the 1st table is DIRT? This is wrong. If you were 3rd, you should wait 3rd just like everyone else does and everywhere else does except for ER due to that is because of life or death, but otherwise, everywhere else they go in order, WHY you servers want to CUT is beyond me? Even waiting for a table, you wait in order, so why serve any differently? I know why, LAZINESS, just BE HONEST HERE for once!
So what would you say to me if I interrupted you at another table to ask for 2 refills? Would you tell me to wait my turn? I'd really like to know?
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I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
No you wouldn't... You'd come up with a million other reasons why I'm an incompetent server, go home, and blog about it... I see people like you every day. Like I said, you can have an opinion when you know what you're talking about. Until then, you're the office worker that proposes to coach servers on how to do a job you have no experience doing. Good luck with that, I'm done talking to you.
dust1n
Zindīq
I'm not asking for a source for a hypothetical situation.
I'm asking for the evidence that supports the claim:
"We'd get a lot less customers if food costs went up so that we could make a higher wage (even if that higher wage was the federal minimum), so there would be less tips, less shifts, and less money overall."
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Common sense? People don't like to pay more for things. I understand that it really wouldn't cost any extra because there wouldn't be a "need" for a tip, but people won't look at it that way, because they're not required to tip in the first place. All they'll see is that the burger used to be 10 dollars and now it's 13 dollars. In a way, you're still putting the cost of labor on the consumer; except this time you're forcing them to pay it rather than suggesting they do.
dust1n
Zindīq
I'll be happy to see you banned after insulting people.
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dust1n
Zindīq
Why wouldn't they look at this way. This thread has exposed me the fact that people will look at it exactly that way, more than likely.
I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
Check the edit.