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Should women be held accountable for men's sexual feelings? Why or why not?
Should women be held accountable for men's sexual feelings? Why or why not?
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Should Women be Held Accountable for Men's Sexual Feelings?
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NulliuSINverba
Active Member
No.
Change the equation slightly and see if it makes more sense with different inputs:
Q. - Should little children be held accountable for the sexual feelings of catholic priests?
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I'm going to assert that it doesn't make sense to hold Party A accountable for the "sexual feelings" of Party B.
Isn't it akin to blaming heavy metal music for teenage suicide?
gsa
Well-Known Member
David Cross addresses your question here: the kids have to share the blame, sitting there in the confessional and tempting the priest who is expected to remain celibate.
Thana
Lady
I know the woman in the article thinks she's doing the right thing, But imo she's just contributing to the problem.
gsa
Well-Known Member
Everyone is responsible for his/her own actions, and feelings. I think I learned this in kindergarten.
Agreed. No one should feel pressured or compelled to change their dress in order to avoid the sexual hang ups of men (or women, but mostly men) who cannot control themselves.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
So go find him and ask him to answer the survey already!
No. But this women is apparently doing this of her own free will.
No. No. No no no no NO.
If I'm turned on by looking at a woman, that's MY sexual preference making itself known to me. She is not responsible at all.
It's not just women that gets saddle with this kind of internalized modesty culture. It's girls too. And it assumes how perverse men are.
Part of our requirements when students enter our higher tuition programs is that they wear clothing that is either snug or midriff showing. A basic leotard and tights combination is sufficient to see a students line for better coaching of their alignment and strength and balance. But booty shorts, bra tops, crop tops, leggings, are also acceptable.
The reasoning is always offered, but it's still amazing how some persnickety parents will say that I want the girls to look like whores.
Because, according to them, there might be grown men in an audience. Who will think impure thoughts if they see a teen girls body.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
Baladas
An Págánach
If only we all took more of our early childhood lessons to heart, the world would be a better place.Everyone is responsible for his/her own actions, and feelings. I think I learned this in kindergarten.
Sultan Of Swing
Well-Known Member
The man takes the blame for his feelings and acting on them.
Nevertheless, we should care about what other people think. Yes, really. I'm not talking about this from some self-esteem perspective, but the Christian perspective is that we should not do anything that will cause our brother or sister to sin. Christians are one body, one Church, and they should all know what it is like to struggle with sin. In the case of clothing, it is kinder to the weaker gentlemen-folk of the Church when a woman decides to dress more modestly.
When a woman goes to church, it's even more important to dress modestly. This is because all attention should be focussed on God, the glory is to be given to God, not on something a woman is (or is not) wearing.
Now, should any of this be put into law? No, of course not, but this is the conduct of a Christian. I understand in our modern society it's all about me me me, I get to wear whatever I want because it makes me feel comfortable, but Christianity is a faith about selflessness and serving others, and with something as serious as sin we are called to be mindful of our weaker brothers and sisters. If I waved a beer bottle in the face of a recovering alcoholic, it would be pretty inconsiderate, and the same goes for how Christian women dress.
What, you're forcing your morality on me, on my choice, just because you are too weak to handle it? If you're a Christian, then yes I am, modest dress has been instructed from the earliest times and we are one Body, this is what Christians do, we look out for each other. Paul said he would not eat meat again if it would cause a weaker brother to stumble.
Deliberately dressing provocatively is wrong too of course in the Christian faith, and one does question why a woman would want to dress immodestly at all. I guess I can understand the "feel comfortable" thing, but then my earlier point stands on causing brothers to stumble. It brings unwanted attention, and if that attention is wanted, then that isn't the way to pursue it.
So if a Christian woman, for example, wears a singlet because it's summer and she does not wish to get sunstroke or heatstroke or any other ill effects one can get from the summer sun and over exposure to heat (and clothing does make a lot of difference in this regard.) And this "revealing" attire happens to cause another man to stumble, she was being inconsiderate to her Brother in Christ? Is she supposed to then take into account that a random man "may" stumble, dress more modestly and risk overheating or perhaps a fainting spell, depending on her health concerns? Or is there like an out that excuses you when health comes into play?
To digress, I wonder if this is a concern amongst Nudist Colonies? Or nude beaches?
Sultan Of Swing
Well-Known Member
If health is truly at risk then that should be taken into account of course, but I can't foresee a situation in which wearing a singlet is that much more necessary over a simple more modest summer dress or similar.
As someone who has low blood pressure and is far more lethargic when summer approaches, I will vehemently contend that notion. Unless you sit in front of the air con all day or go work where I do and hide in the walk in fridge lol. A singlet is a far FAR better option than a summer dress or something even remotely "more modest."
turk179
I smell something....
Sure. If the woman's intention is to draw the attention of a man by way of dress and succeeds then why not be held accountable. It was her intention. And the same goes for me. If I were to dress for the specific purpose as to draw the attention of a woman and succeed (because ladies find jeans and stained holy t-shirts sexy
) then I should be held accountable as well. But when a woman is dressing for comfort or for fashion or to express herself then she or anyone else for that matter has the right to, without having to worry about other people's sexual desires. I feel bad for someone who has to think about what she wears as to not get the men all riled up. I'm a man and I can control myself.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
Sure. If the woman's intention is to draw the attention of a man by way of dress and succeeds then why not be held accountable. It was her intention. And the same goes for me. If I were to dress for the specific purpose as to draw the attention of a woman and succeed (because ladies find jeans and stained holy t-shirts sexy
I think this modesty thing actually empowers some men to act badly toward women. I gather that in some places muslim men are a problem because they feel entitled to rape women who do not hide themselves from view.
turk179
I smell something....
Maybe I should have said that they shouldn't have to worry.
