Sign at George Floyd Square gives list of special orders for white visitors

[SomeRandom]

No. Its not meant to be heard by some and unheard by others. It is a direct challenge to black lives matter. This coming from people who warned me to stay out of the black part of town (where I used to live) because inevitable I'd be mugged; warned me about being in Detroit because "they have a lot of black people;" the sorts who believe it's basically impossible to fire a black person because the NAACP will protect them no matter what; the sorts who believe black people get all sorts of benefits and advantages and have it better than white people who work for their stuff; the type of people so foul they even take it out on kids, disowning interracial grand children amd having their own set of derogatory terms to refer to interracial children; the type so utterly clueless they think racism came to an end when Obama was elected and we live in a post-racist society, and then blame it on black people for keep bringing up race.

But I thought that was what a dog whistle is supposed to do?
Be heard by those “in the know” whereas everyone else can’t hear it. In fact that’s sort of how I was introduced to the “all lives matter crowd.” Through political commentators who were all like, “oh yeah here’s the latest racist dog whistle y’all.”

 

[Left Coast]

It certainly is when you insinuate its white people whom can't act appropriately around the area where Floyd died to a point you would feel a need to post a directed message exclusively intended for whites.

White people don't act appropriately in situations where black people try to bring up racism all. The. Time. See for example - this thread. And they are routinely unaware that what they are saying is inappropriate. Thus the need to educate them.

Of course if your equally blind to what I'm saying as evidenced by your ad homin comment directed at me that somehow this isn't anything racist for which I'm apparently ignorant.

Much like racism, you apparently dont know what ad hominem is either. Saying you don't know something is not an attack on you as a person. It's a criticism of your perspective.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But I thought that was what a dog whistle is supposed to do?
Be heard by those “in the know” whereas everyone else can’t hear it. In fact that’s sort of how I was introduced to the “all lives matter crowd.” Through political commentators who were all like, “oh yeah here’s the latest racist dog whistle y’all.”

A dog whistle is perceivable to those who are in the know, and those who aren't perceive nothing as the intent is to not alienate them. All lives mater, when you aren't in their group you see how they are using it, which is more like a middle finger to black people.

 

[Left Coast]

Why the singling out of white people?

Because white people are the majority. And White people have a tendency to a) believe racism is overblown and not really that big if a deal anymore, or that they are just as much victims of it, or moreso, than black people, and b) they tend not to see any of the above as problematic.

In short, they are routinely blind to their privilege. I know thats a trigger word for the anti-PC crowd (irony of ironies) but that puts it succinctly.

And keep in mind, there are white people who are of a minority, such those with chronic mental illness.

Of course but they're minorities for reasons other than their whiteness.

And, on the flip side, there are minorities who blame their every last problem on the majority, do fail to put in effort to improve themselves, and are utterly defeatist. I've known more of these types than I'd care to. The same for those who are very sensitive and highly prone to being offended. And even fully privileged majority white people can be like that.

That's true. I'm not sure why a simple sign has to contain every caveat and exception to the rule in it. It simply says hey, be humble and don't make coming here about you. That message, btw, is just as much for liberal whites as others. White liberals often make a show of their anti-racism and make it more about themselves than the actual cause they're supposedly an ally for. So the sign is calling that out as much as anything.

 

[Left Coast]

All that tells me is there is a belief that skin color is conducent with disposition.

Bit like physical characteristics determine people's demeanour and character?

Now where has that been heard before?

That is a painfully silly equivocation that once again informs me you do not actually know what racism is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Because white people are the majority. And White people have a tendency to a) believe racism is overblown and not really that big if a deal anymore, or that they are just as much victims of it, or moreso, than black people, and b) they tend not to see any of the above as problematic.

In short, they are routinely blind to their privilege. I know thats a trigger word for the anti-PC crowd (irony of ironies) but that puts it succinctly.



Of course but they're minorities for reasons other than their whiteness.



That's true. I'm not sure why a simple sign has to contain every caveat and exception to the rule in it. It simply says hey, be humble and don't make coming here about you. That message, btw, is just as much for liberal whites as others. White liberals often make a show of their anti-racism and make it more about themselves than the actual cause they're supposedly an ally for. So the sign is calling that out as much as anything.

We may have to backtrack some. I wasn't referring to the sign, but rather your repeated use of white people.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Because white people are the majority. And White people have a tendency to a) believe racism is overblown and not really that big if a deal anymore, or that they are just as much victims of it, or moreso, than black people, and b) they tend not to see any of the above as problematic.

And there's many black people who will tell you that racism is overblown these days and the notion of "white privilege" is bs. People aren't hive minds.

 

[Thief]

Sitting on someone's neck and lungs for 9 minutes and 29 seconds will kill them too, apparently.

so will fentanyl and a panic attack

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Of course but they're minorities for reasons other than their whiteness.

True, but they are still minorities. Getting lumped in with the type of upper middle class suburbanites who would draw guns on a BLM march. One, despite their whiteness may see and understand the basics of whats going on, having experienced similar situations due to whatever is going on in this person, the other a provocateur and antgonist towards they believe have to just do whatever (often times try and work harder, abstaining from drugs, less kids, and so on) to get where they are and everyone can be like them amd have what they have.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

so will fentanyl and a panic attack

And you have to say that here?

 

[MonkeyFire]

Racist.

 

[Left Coast]

We may have to backtrack some. I wasn't referring to the sign, but rather your repeated use of white people.

My "repeated use of white people" was in response to questions about the sign that specifies a message to white people.

 

[SomeRandom]

A dog whistle is perceivable to those who are in the know, and those who aren't perceive nothing as the intent is to not alienate them. All lives mater, when you aren't in their group you see how they are using it, which is more like a middle finger to black people.

Ahh I get you now.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That is a painfully silly equivocation that once again informs me you do not actually know what racism is.

That's perfectly fine by me. I'm just giving my views and opinions as I see it.

Incidentally, I'm guessing Morgan Freeman dosent know what racism is either.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Racist.

No doubt.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And there's many black people who will tell you that racism is overblown these days and the notion of "white privilege" is bs. People aren't hive minds.

I know plenty of folks who don't even mention race nor care about the issue. Why?

Because everyone has nice steady jobs and call each other by their proper names without any concern about skin color , language , or culture.

We are more concerned about the weekends and making overtime than anything else.

I'm in the minority where I work. A lot of people come from the common wealth of Puerto Rico and others are, dare I say it, are ....American.

Yep. We all over here take Morgan Freemans advice. Yesss!

 

[Left Coast]

True, but they are still minorities. Getting lumped in with the type of upper middle class suburbanites who would draw guns on a BLM march. One, despite their whiteness may see and understand the basics of whats going on, having experienced similar situations due to whatever is going on in this person, the other a provocateur and antgonist towards they believe have to just do whatever (often times try and work harder, abstaining from drugs, less kids, and so on) to get where they are and everyone can be like them amd have what they have.

I'm a white person who is a minority for another reason. Call me crazy, I don't regard the sign as an absolute declaration of the disposition of every white person on Earth. I just read the sign and go, "okay cool, no worries."

 

[Left Coast]

I know plenty of folks who don't even mention race nor care about the issue. Why?

Because everyone has nice steady jobs and call each other by their proper names without any concern about skin color , language , or culture.

We are more concerned about the weekends and making overtime than anything else.

I'm in the minority where I work. A lot of people come from the common wealth of Puerto Rico and others are, dare I say it, are ....American.

Yep. We all over here take Morgan Freemans advice. Yesss!

...Puerto Ricans are American.

 

[Left Coast]

That's perfectly fine by me. I'm just giving my views and opinions as I see it.

Incidentally, I'm guessing Morgan Freeman dosent know what racism is either.

I think if Morgan Freeman saw your comment about being enslaved by a sign to a black master he'd LOL.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm a white person who is a minority for another reason. Call me crazy, I don't regard the sign as an absolute declaration of the disposition of every white person on Earth. I just read the sign and go, "okay cool, no worries."

I see that there are many white people that is referring to, and for good reason. Even with good intentions, some can be insufferable arselings.
I also see an increasing acceptance of racism that holds all white people guilty. Such as a sign singling out "white people in particular." As has been pointed out in this thread, white people aren't the only ones capable of misbehaving, and not the only with members who are crap when it comes to race.
People shouldn't have to tolerate constantly being called and singled out and assumed guilty from the start, either and any and all ways it goes. That's a tool also used by guilt ridden Catholics and Evangelicals.