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Does my testimony mention repenting of sin? Yes
If your understanding of ‘born again’ and ‘eternal life’ is accepting Jesus and that means believing that he died for your sins and rose again from the dead, I will tell you right now - that’s NOT the teaching of Jesus, that’s the teaching of Paul who said, “And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith” – 1 Corr. 15:14.Are you born again and received eternal life?
“As therefore you received Messiah Yeshua the Lord, walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, even as you were taught, abounding in it in thanksgiving.”Huh?? Let me refresh your memory - I said all your claims and comments are just based on assumptions because you cannot back them up with the words of Jesus (Post#1273) and you responded with, They are backed up if you bothered to read the previous posts. So, really, what nonsense are you talking about here ???Nothing personal...Post #1259 and others, but why bother talking to people like you?’ (Post#1275)
So, really, why even mention Post #1259 if it’s just your own testimony of your ‘reborn’ ?? Or maybe you want to put your testimony up for debate too??
If your understanding of ‘born again’ and ‘eternal life’ is accepting Jesus and that means believing that he died for your sins and rose again from the dead, I will tell you right now - that’s NOT the teaching of Jesus, that’s the teaching of Paul who said, “And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith” – 1 Corr. 15:14.
Now, what kind of faith is that if it’s entirely dependent on the sole belief that a prophet must die and rise from the dead? A true Faith is centered around and about the One and Only God, NOT around and about His prophet and believing this prophet must die or must sacrifice his life for your sins and that he rose from the dead !!
So, the REAL question is - are you a true follower of Jesus Christ or a follower of Paul ?
That’s not the Real question but here is the answer Jesus gives:So, the REAL question is - are you a true follower of Jesus Christ or a follower of Paul ?
In case you have not realized it - those are the words of Paul, NOT Jesus.“As therefore you received Messiah Yeshua the Lord, walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, even as you were taught, abounding in it in thanksgiving.”
Colossians 2:6-7 WMBBE
First thing you should notice in the passage you quoted above is the glaring fact that Jesus NEVER mentioned nor did he imply to be born again, one must believe he die for the sin of all mankind.That’s not the Real question but here is the answer Jesus gives:
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a person be born again from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus said unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again from above. The wind blows where it desires, and thou hearest the sound of it, but canst not tell from where it comes or where it goes; so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can this be done? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher of Israel and knowest not this?”
John 3:3-10 JUB
So what? Jesus rose from the dead and sent the Holy Spirit to dwell in believers, we are living in the time of the ministry of the Holy Spirit and the Church is the pillar and support of the Truth.In case you have not realized it - those are the words of Paul, NOT Jesus.
You’re reasoning is this: Your Dad says go to the store and buy some groceries.First thing you should notice in the passage you quoted above is the glaring fact that Jesus NEVER mentioned nor did he imply to be born again, one must believe he die for the sin of all mankind.
So, what is ‘born again’ ? To be born again is when you have received the Holy Spirit. It's only when the Holy Spirit is in you, will your heart be transformed from indifference and hostility toward God to a love of God and a desire for righteousness and holiness. The only way you can receive the Holy Spirit is to sincerely repent (Acts 2:38).
Jesus NEVER said you must believe he died for your sins to be ‘born again’ nor did he ever said you must believe he died for your sins and rose from the dead for you to enter the kingdom of heaven. In fact, on this note, Jesus said only those who do the Will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 7:21). It's only the other people who said you must believe Jesus died for your sins and that he rose again, else, you have not accepted Jesus and your faith is in vain – who said that? Certainly NOT Jesus!
So, (again) the real question is – are you a true follower of Jesus Christ or a follower of Paul?
Really? So what!??? So much of being 'born again'! It's obviously clear that as far you are concerned, the words of other people are more important than the words of Jesus Christ -. Got it !!So what? Jesus rose from the dead and sent the Holy Spirit to dwell in believers, we are living in the time of the ministry of the Holy Spirit and the Church is the pillar and support of the Truth.
LOL - That’s a pretty silly analogy, to say the least - you know, like the one you can expect from a kid whose thinking capability has not reached its full potential.You’re reasoning is this: Your Dad says go to the store and buy some groceries.
Your interpretation: My Dad didn’t mention I needed money so I didn’t bring any to the store.
I am sure you have and let me guess - the conclusions are the same – you STILL cannot back up your claims and comments with the words of Jesus !!I’ve talked to many Muslims with the same arguements.
What did Jesus say of his purpose for coming ?? To die for your sins ?? Really ?? Wow, finally, someone found a verse or a passage in the Bible where Jesus said his purpose for coming is to die for your sins !! Please share this passage with us !! I am sure many readers here are eager to know which passage is that!! Don’t disappoint us now !!Although Jesus does say His purpose for coming and if you understood what Jesus says, the Passover and the rest of Scripture you would understand and wouldn’t be saying the things you’re saying.
Jesus Christ said you must be born again in John 3 and All Scripture is inspired by God.Really? So what!??? So much of being 'born again'! It's obviously clear that as far you are concerned, the words of other people are more important than the words of Jesus Christ -. Got it !!
““Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and deliver Him to the Gentiles; and they will mock Him, and scourge Him, and spit on Him, and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.” For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.””What did Jesus say of his purpose for coming ??
That was Jesus’ purpose of coming to earth?? How disappointing!! Your preconceived mind is preventing you from seeing the truth.““Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and deliver Him to the Gentiles; and they will mock Him, and scourge Him, and spit on Him, and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.” For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.””
Mark 10:33-34, 45 NKJV
So you think when Jesus mentioned ‘born again’, does he mean you must believe that he died for your sins and rose again from the dead?? Give me a break, please !!!Jesus Christ said you must be born again in John 3 and All Scripture is inspired by God.
The Bible came from the original manuscriptsAll Scripture is inspired by God’ is a reference to the original scripture, NOT to the Bible, you have today. The Bible you have today is a mixture of truth and lies, so, how can you say the Bible you have today is inspired by God ??
The Bible came from the original manuscripts does not mean the Bible cannot end up being a Book of truth and lies. Likewise, we all came from God which does not mean we cannot end up being corrupted through Satan’s temptations.The Bible came from the original manuscripts
IMO, it's the Holy Spirit that can lead one to become a believer, and I am one of those. I think we all have a "piece of God" within us, which the Society of Friends call our "inner light", but we need to tap into it, which some do and some don't and some do only in part.The difference is the Holy Spirit doesn’t dwell inside of unbelievers, only believers.
Your hypothetical question is not analogous to the scenario that involves God, Jesus and man.A question for the Unitarians and other Christians who doubt Jesus is God:
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
Notice that it is GOD that demonstrates His love towards us but it is CHRIST who dies.
Let's pretend Jesus is NOT God, just like you claim. How is it GOD showing his love toward us by asking someone else to die?
If the Warden comes to your house and requests you die for someone who's currently in jail, someone who knows and confesses he's guilty, would you consider this an act of love by the Warden?
Remember, I'm not asking if you are loving by agreeing to die for the convicted felon, I'm asking if you feel the Warden is showing his love for you by asking.
This is extremely easy to answer if Jesus is God. But if he's not, I wonder how it's answered.
Thanks for playing!
That's not correct, but what I don't believe is that the Bible is completely inerrant.
When it comes to "Divine inspiration", theologians are all over the place on this, and there simply is not enough evidence to somehow establish any one of them as being correct.
I read an auspicious book some time ago… It spoke to me loudly of the danger of sinning!
I read another book that guided me to where I was going. I was led by that book!
I opened my exercise book after some time away and it reminded me of what I had learnt and what was to be learnt.
Hmmm… books… persons?
My computer spoke to me and said, ‘You have new Mail waiting!’… a person spoke to me!!