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So, Trump was innocent all the time!

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Think it went something like this:

Dem: Mayhaps you have pondered President Trump's duplicitousness and wanton disregard for decorum and have ruminated on the appropriate opprobrium to be administered for his knavery.

Pub: Gadzooks! One appears to be rendered non compos mentis by the malady of Trump. Ken ye well and forget ye not the roguery of the dastardly varlet Hillary and her electronic correspondence.

etc.
That reminds me - where exactly is @KenS? :oops:
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
It's relationship with Marxism.

The collapse of countries like Greece and Venezuela.


I presume you are referring Greece’s Syriza (coalition of the radical left) government? It lasted four years from 2014-19, and it’s electoral success was a reaction to, rather than a cause of, the collapse of the country’s economy.

Greece’s banks collapsed because of the overexposure of her German and French creditors, to the toxic US financial sector. The same US banking sector which brought the world’s economy to the brink of disaster in 2008.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
How the hell did it happen that the USA might change into a socialist autocratic communist country?
These orgnisations are realy well oiled machines working together to remove the freedom from the greatest people this Earth has ever known.

Anyway.
So Trump was innocent all along, and CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and all the other mickey mouse so called "news networks" slithered into their holes, and hope no one would notice the damage they caused to the hard working families of the USA.
Greetings.

The USA has been a capitalist plutocracy for as long as anyone can remember. Nothing has changed.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
So Trump was innocent all along
Innocent is a big word to use in the same sentence as Trump, don't you think? He did tell quite a number of lies, no innocence there

BUT

Trump might come back:D (I like the banner: Trump is back & he's angry)
 

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
You understand that our government has a checks and balances system, right? You understand that, even if the president and vice president want an autocratic communist regime, they can't get it? You do know that they don't have that kind of power? Or are you completely oblivious to how government works?
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Just my two cents but I’d argue that Mr. Trump is the one who transformed America into a socialist country. He invoked the 1950’s war law the Defense Production Act, which gives the government authority to take over the means of production for a war effort. Remember when he started referring to COVID as a war and an “invisible enemy”? I believe it was in that week which he started that rhetoric that he enacted the Defense Production Act. He didn’t use it to it’s full capacity, however he did immediately use the DPA to have car factories make ventilators. Though he didn’t really use the DPA further than this (well I stopped watching the news as obsessively around this time so idk), the DPA is still in place. In Biden’s first set of executive orders, he used the DPA in some of them. This DPA that Donald Trump is responsible for. Again, this gives the government legal and complete control over all the means of production, for as long as we are in this COVID situation. Did Trump not turn us into a socialist country with this alone? Perhaps him and Biden are actually buddies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think most politicians are buddies and each just plays different roles to control the narrative and to produce a certain desired outcome.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Innocent is a big word to use in the same sentence as Trump, don't you think? He did tell quite a number of lies, no innocence there

BUT

Trump might come back:D (I like the banner: Trump is back & he's angry)
I think that is a mistype - should be: Trump is black and he's angry - so eventually getting the message as to inequalities - as ****ing if! :D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Boy I bet this forum was hot 2016-2020. I’m pretty sure I’m glad I missed that.
Nay, twas a time of peaceful & civil discourse here.
No one unfriended anyone else for voting for the evil
candidate. It was never about skin color, hair style,
gender, etc. No one insulted anyone else. All debating
was logical & evidenced based.
You missed the Golden Age of RF.

The era post twenty sixteen
Was really the best ever seen
No one was bored
Frubal counts soared
And staff lavatories were clean
 
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It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
For starters, the big lie that Trump was in support of Russia and a Putin crony allowing the Russians to pay bounties to Afgans to kill American soldiers was proven wrong! The big lie that Trump encited the "Far right supporters" to attack the Congress on Jan 6, was proven wrong! The big lie that Trump will be investigated for financial corruption and will be jailed, was proven wrong!

Trump was found innocent in your absence? Look again.

He hasn't even been indicted or tried yet, much less acquitted. The Manhattan DA (and possibly the SDNY) are about ready to hand out indictments to the Trump Organization and any principal involved in its crimes in New York City, most of whom are named Trump.

DC is preparing to issue indictments for the insurrection and those orchestrating it, and Georgia for attempted election tampering on Trump's behalf.

Crimes committed by the Trump administration such as those involving abuse of power in cahoots with Barr and the justice department are in the crosshairs of AG Garland now as well, a fourth front against Trump.

Trump is cornered and he knows it. He did everything in his power to hold the White House after losing the election, because he understood what would befall him without that power. Everything he did was toward that purpose. He laid the groundwork before the election when he proclaimed that IF he lost, the election was rigged. Then when he lost, he doubled down on that, calling statehouses trying to get election results overturned.

Then, when Pence wouldn't try to overturn the electoral college results for him, he provoked an insurrection.

He's still trying to find a way back into power, with delusional predictions of being reinstated in August.

It's not because he has any desire to govern. He's always been lazy and uninterested in that. He just want to continue to use the government as a cover to protect him from justice, and perhaps to grift the American people some more. He's desperate and terrified.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wouldn't know. She starts talking science and I go to Games to get away just to see you posting twerky turkeys then I go back to her science posts and try to understand them again.
It's not really science.
She plays a game similar to Mad Libs...."Math Libs".
But we, the unedumacated slobbering masses, lack
the expertise to spot her elaborate practical jokes.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
It's not really science.
She plays a game similar to Mad Libs...."Math Libs".
But we, the unedumacated slobbering masses, lack
the expertise to spot her elaborate practical jokes.

Yeah I'll stick to duking things out with you. Sometimes when you hit me in the nose with the Popular Science magazine, I manage to get the magazine between my teeth and give you a spin around the room.
 
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