Soldier father waterboards his own daughter because she couldn't recite the alphabet.

[Kerr]

Imagine the possibilities. Kids could learn multiple alphabets in the name of not suffering!

A new age of Enlightenment is approaching!

 

[Kerr]

Seriously, though, this is horrible. I am really sorry for that kid .

 

[John D]

Yeah, I guess you are right, this must be the best educational method ever, since it means the kids will be to scared to not do as you say... sure they will develop deep emotional scars, but that they can remember the alphabet at age 4 is more important.

...........No what can be use to "motivate" them to count properly.

 

[YmirGF]

Jeez. If you can't water-board your kids then who can you water-board? Next folks will be complaining about using hotplates to instill virtue into impressionable minds.

 

[Kathryn]

I knew a guy whom I worked with, who joined the military and at boot camp, the general spit into his face and caught laryngitis. I would argue that was probably emotional traumatic for him, though it may not seem like much in comparison to war.

You must certainly have some of the "facts" wrong in this story.

There is not a general in the military who would intentionally spit in the face of a recruit.

In fact, there are hardly any instances in which a general would even be in the same vicinity with a recruit at boot camp.

Just pointing that out.

Now - his DRILL SERGEANT may have yelled in his face and gotten so close that he gave him laryngitis, but that's a whole other scenario. Or his platoon leader (all of probably 21 years old) may have actually SPIT in his face - who knows?

But a general? No way.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

All this talk about people that get disturbed in war, I somehow feel less sorry for them than I do the children of the area the war is being fought in. For if it screws up an adult who is trained and willfully went into the environment, how bad is it screwing with the civilians heads .

Before anyone jumps on me, my Grandfather lives with me, and he is a decorated veteran of two wars, and spent 24 years in there. He suffers all the same things, and I am grateful for his service, but that is besides the point I am making.

I think more studies should be done in this area.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Jeez. If you can't water-board your kids then who can you water-board? Next folks will be complaining about using hotplates to instill virtue into impressionable minds.

Yeah I agree, I mean what's a dad to do these days?

 

[dust1n]

You must certainly have some of the "facts" wrong in this story.

There is not a general in the military who would intentionally spit in the face of a recruit.

In fact, there are hardly any instances in which a general would even be in the same vicinity with a recruit at boot camp.

Just pointing that out.

Now - his DRILL SERGEANT may have yelled in his face and gotten so close that he gave him laryngitis, but that's a whole other scenario. Or his platoon leader (all of probably 21 years old) may have actually SPIT in his face - who knows?

But a general? No way.

Sorry, I meant drill sergeant. I'm not too, too familiar with military hierarchy. Needless to say the kid was getting 600 dollars a month and his bills paid to not sue the **** out of them.

 

[dust1n]

All this talk about people that get disturbed in war, I somehow feel less sorry for them than I do the children of the area the war is being fought in. For if it screws up an adult who is trained and willfully went into the environment, how bad is it screwing with the civilians heads .

Before anyone jumps on me, my Grandfather lives with me, and he is a decorated veteran of two wars, and spent 24 years in there. He suffers all the same things, and I am grateful for his service, but that is besides the point I am making.

I think more studies should be done in this area.

I didn't forget about the civilians who are on the opposite end of aggression. No one wins from these incidents... except banks, arms manufacturers and dealers, infrastructure construction groups, oil companies, etc.

 

[Moonstone]

That is so disgusting, I can't even wrap my head around it..

 

[Evamorgana]

I am not even sure that wartime experiences permanently "disturb" everyone. My dad served in combat in Vietnam for 7 years and he's not at all "disturbed." In fact, he regrets getting out and looks back on his military service as a great time in his life overall.

My oldest son served in an infantry unit in Iraq for 18 months, and knew many soldiers who lost their lives or were badly injured. He was pretty shaken up by some of his experiences over there and for awhile after he got back, he took some meds to help him sleep. He has recovered from his post traumatic stress disorder and is still serving in the US Army and is about to re enlist.

He's not "disturbed" - he's just human, and some things are pretty shocking to experience and assimilate. But he's doing great, and will probably go back to the Middle East sometime in the next year. He's fine with that - better with it than I am, in fact. It's his job, he considers it his duty, and he's willing to serve.

Most people don't recover so rapidly.
I consider your Dad very lucky. His good mental health after such hardship is in the minority.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't know - my entire family is military. From the Revolutionary War till the present, my family has served in every US war and conflict. I have three active duty kids who have all deployed to war zones, as has my brother - and my dad, my cousins, my uncles (one of whom was a POW in a German POW camp). Without exception, they are law abiding, productive, well adjusted people. I've been a military brat, wife, sister, and now mom - and seen my family through the Vietnam, Lebanon, Persian Gulf, Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.

I don't think we're so weird, unusual - or made of Teflon. The military can be a very enriching and fulfilling lifestyle and/or experience, even if the experience includes combat service.

 

[dust1n]

I don't know - my entire family is military. From the Revolutionary War till the present, my family has served in every US war and conflict. I have three active duty kids who have all deployed to war zones, as has my brother - and my dad, my cousins, my uncles (one of whom was a POW in a German POW camp). Without exception, they are law abiding, productive, well adjusted people. I've been a military brat, wife, sister, and now mom - and seen my family through the Vietnam, Lebanon, Persian Gulf, Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.

I don't think we're so weird, unusual - or made of Teflon. The military can be a very enriching and fulfilling lifestyle and/or experience, even if the experience includes combat service.

I'm sorry, but I can't see combating people in their own countries as a fulfilling activity. The discipline, the travel, the helping people sometimes, sure. But combat enriching? Maybe the pockets of arms dealers of the time.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I would hope that story is fake, and it was created by some activist group to try and scare people into supporting their cause, but sadly I doubt that is the case.
Maybe a part of the military benefits should be free psychiatric help for life, because so many military personnel do have some severe issues coping after they have finished serving tours of war.

 

[kai]

I'm sorry, but I can't see combating people in their own countries as a fulfilling activity. The discipline, the travel, the helping people sometimes, sure. But combat enriching? Maybe the pockets of arms dealers of the time.

well its not for everyone or everyone would join up. protecting people from sadistic murderers and engaging them in the kind of violence they usually dish out to civilians can feel very rewarding.

 

[Kathryn]

I'm very proud of my family's military service. My son's time in Iraq (18 months) matured him into a very strong man and taught him a lot. He was able to see the results (both good and bad) of our efforts to stabilize that region, and he came home with a clear idea of the need for our presence in that region. This, in spite of the fact that his platoon leader was killed by a sniper as he was delivering school supplies to children in a neighborhood in Iskandiriyah. My son had to clean his brains out of the front seat of the humvee.

 

[Mr Cheese]

I'm sorry, but I can't see combating people in their own countries as a fulfilling activity. The discipline, the travel, the helping people sometimes, sure. But combat enriching? Maybe the pockets of arms dealers of the time.

"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam... the crown jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture... and kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill! "

--Full metal Jacket

 

[Mr Cheese]

well its not for everyone or everyone would join up. protecting people from sadistic murderers and engaging them in the kind of violence they usually dish out to civilians can feel very rewarding.

it takes a certain kind of person to kill
And in modern times, certain kinds of drugs...

"A day without blood is like a day without sunshine. "

--Full Metal Jacket

 

[dust1n]

well its not for everyone or everyone would join up. protecting people from sadistic murderers and engaging them in the kind of violence they usually dish out to civilians can feel very rewarding.

I fail to why one has to join the military force to protect people from sadistic murderers and engaging in the kind of violence to stop violence, when the military force has historically been the most sadistic murderer through out our time.

 

[ChristineES]

There is no doubt it is abuse, but she shouldn't have even been disciplined at all just because she didn't know the alphabet. Helping her learn her letters would have been appropriate.