Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.

[muichimotsu]

I don't think sexuality itself is taught. I think that how person satisfies sexuality is something that can be learnt.

Sexual behavior and our regard to it is conditioned socially, shaming people, etc. That's where we get the sex positive and sex negative distinctions that have been a concept since the 60s. Sexual attraction is not taught, that was not my intention remotely, sexual behavior is what we have agency over

 

[muichimotsu]

You as a lawyer would obviously lose the case in a court, this obviously doesn't apply to this unfortunate pastor since he obviously doesn't call on unlawful execution but rather ask government to do *eliminate* (not execute) them legally.


You sound like you didn't watch the video or read the article at all, nowhere in the video does he call on unlawful execution, he doesn't even use the word "execution" at all in video:

Here is quote from article since you ignore facts (see bold):

Legality doesn't mean it is moral or even good jurisprudence, don't assume that the law permitting something means it's okay even in a secular context of moral decency towards human dignity.

And I never said he advocated a vigilante mob, the point is he is calling for discriminatory violence against a marginalized group. Or do you not understand what discrimination or marginalization mean?

 

[muichimotsu]

No. let's first address the portion of video where this pastor calls on execution then we'll get back to your questions.


What the article says is not proof of anything, I care only about video where one can clearly hear and see this pastor saying this,
therefore if you want to prove anything, let me know the point in (@minute:second format) of the video.

So did you watch the video or not? I'm beginning to think you don't have a solid grasp of English, because I've watched the video and he definitely said these things the article quotes, so really it's either you being ignorant or willfully not recognizing this because that would mean acknowledging he was wrong rather than pulling the free speech card at every turn

 

[muichimotsu]

Isn't it just the next alphabet added to the string of letters? People are already speaking in a way that it will be normalized and accepted. And by what I know, pedophiles can be also heterosexual. So that is not just a gay thing.

No one is trying to normalize it, you'd need to actually substantiate that in a way that isn't going to the level of a fringe person or even outright trolling. The attraction itself occurs, no one is saying the behavior and acting upon said attraction is right, because children cannot legally or morally give informed consent

 

[paradox]

So did you watch the video or not? I'm beginning to think you don't have a solid grasp of English, because I've watched the video and he definitely said these things the article quotes, so really it's either you being ignorant or willfully not recognizing this because that would mean acknowledging he was wrong rather than pulling the free speech card at every turn

I don't have a grasp with English? or you?

The article says:

Pastor Dillon Awes said that the "solution" to gay people is presented in the Bible: "They should be lined up against the wall and shot in the back of the head."

Which portion of the video confirms this? please use (@minute:second format) to see if you understand English.

Go ahead I'm waiting.

 

[muichimotsu]

Can you point to portion of video where he calls on "execution"?


This is not about what I think, but rather about false accusations against this pastor.
@muichimotsu claims he broke the law but is unable to prove it.

Problem is you think the law is cut and dry, but depending on how one spins it, you can get around many things by defenses like plausible deniability, etc, passing the buck onto others and not taking responsibility for your actions as anything criminal, because then that'd mean admitting wrongdoing and a preacher can't be caught doing that in terms of something so unambiguous as advocating for the equivalent of public lynchings (pretty sure he says the executions should be public)

 

[muichimotsu]

I don't have a grasp with English? or you?

The article says:


Which portion of the video confirms this? please use (@minute:second format) to see if you understand English.

Go ahead I'm waiting.

Give the specific video, then we'll talk, I'm not taking bait so you can feel superior in your shifted goalposts of "victory"

 

[paradox]

Give the specific video, then we'll talk, I'm not taking bait so you can feel superior in your shifted goalposts of "victory"

Link to video is in the OP, have you not read it or watch the video?:
Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.

 

[muichimotsu]

Link to video is in the OP, have you not read it or watch the video?:
Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.

The video in the post is not what is being referred to in the quote from the pastor saying that he wants gays to be executed. The article CLEARLY states that they're referencing a sermon and he's not giving a sermon in the video brought up, he's at a city council meeting giving public comments

You want to backtrack on your little attempt at a gotcha moment and look at the sermon that I'm pretty sure is available online? Or are you going to keep digging a hole and claim you didn't realize that, meaning your reading comprehension of English is sorely lacking?

 

[rational experiences]

All humans come from microbiology sperm ovary. Not sexual. With God humans bodies.

The mind conscious concept is affected by environmental conditions.

As once as a healer psychic I knew straight away a human who was gay. Nowadays you can't. As everyday men are now gay. Now you wouldn't even know.

Proving atmospheric change is causing the mind effect of natural consciousness.

Proven. When ice saviour melts. Water mass oxygenated returns biologies life support. A sign meek animals lay with predator.

As seen. Natural conscious awareness has changed. Innate natural survival gone.

As mutual human man woman sex is natural survival.

We see we get warned we know it's happened. Mutual life change warnings. Humans panic seeing it.

We all own expressive messages....we share the advices. As a family we are meant to review the conclusion.

 

[Shaul]

In the USA, though not elsewhere, yes it seems there is. And you know why? Trump.

It is Trump who has given his supporters licence to indulge in and express hatreds that in the past people were encouraged to be civilised enough to repress and repudiate. Trump himself radiates hatred, seeking to use every issue to sow division and get one half of the country hating the other half. This, I'm sorry to say, is a large part of his appeal. People feel liberated that Trump creates a climate in which is it OK to hate the blacks, it is OK to hate the "elites" (a.k.a people with more knowledge or education than yourself), it is OK to hate the homosexuals, it is OK to hate the Mexicans, etc, etc.

This is the key to Trump's genius as a politician: you can find "other" types of people to blame, for whatever predicament you find yourself in......and then you can find relief in hating them and expressing that hatred in public - or he'll do it on your behalf.

This kind of appeal has been used before. In 1930s Germany, for example.

You are raving. Do you not recognize your own cognitive dissonance? You decry how Trump demonizes “other” types and then you demonize him as an “other”. Sorry, but you are deluded to invest Trump as the sum of all evil. Get over your irrationality about Trump.

 

[1213]

...Sexual attraction is not taught...

I agree with that, but I think it is possible to guide it to direction that is not good for the person.

 

[1213]

...
Can you even support the idea that homosexuality is "bad taste" or "unreasonable" or "not good for their health"?...

Monkeypox seems to be the latest reason to think the homosexual act is not reasonable, nor good for persons health.

Why the monkeypox outbreak is mostly affecting men who have sex with men | Science | AAAS
Monkeypox is being driven overwhelmingly by sex between men, major study finds (nbcnews.com)
Bay Area Doctor Weighs in on First Human-to-Dog Monkeypox Transmission Confirmed in Paris (msn.com)

...LGBT teaches love...

I don't think they even know love.

 

[exchemist]

You are raving. Do you not recognize your own cognitive dissonance? You decry how Trump demonizes “other” types and then you demonize him as an “other”. Sorry, but you are deluded to invest Trump as the sum of all evil. Get over your irrationality about Trump.

Nope. It is a view held by almost everyone, outside the madness of the USA.

Trump has sought division at every turn. Every speech and almost every tweet has attacked someone. This is not how a president of the USA behaves. This sort of troll-like behaviour at the top sets the tone for discourse in society. Trump has empowered all the trolls and arseholes and encourages ordinary people to get in touch with their inner troll and become arseholes too. Plenty of people welcome the release from civilised behaviour that Trump permits, spawning a poisonous cult of personality, animated by hatred. Hitler did very much the same.

And now we see it take the next step, with an attempt to overthrow the results of an election and attacks on election officials and now on the forces of law and order.

 

[Ashoka]

I don't think they even know love.

We do. I promise you, we do.

 

[paradox]

The video in the post is not what is being referred to in the quote from the pastor saying that he wants gays to be executed. The article CLEARLY states that they're referencing a sermon and he's not giving a sermon in the video brought up, he's at a city council meeting giving public comments

You want to backtrack on your little attempt at a gotcha moment and look at the sermon that I'm pretty sure is available online? Or are you going to keep digging a hole and claim you didn't realize that, meaning your reading comprehension of English is sorely lacking?

In your post #363 you are referring to video in the OP, my question was about "this pastor" and you quoted me saying I did not watch the video.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You are raving. Do you not recognize your own cognitive dissonance? You decry how Trump demonizes “other” types and then you demonize him as an “other”. Sorry, but you are deluded to invest Trump as the sum of all evil. Get over your irrationality about Trump.

Sorry but the ones being irrational about all things Trump, are people who still fully support him at this point.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Monkeypox seems to be the latest reason to think the homosexual act is not reasonable, nor good for persons health.

Why the monkeypox outbreak is mostly affecting men who have sex with men | Science | AAAS
Monkeypox is being driven overwhelmingly by sex between men, major study finds (nbcnews.com)
Bay Area Doctor Weighs in on First Human-to-Dog Monkeypox Transmission Confirmed in Paris (msn.com)

Here we go again with this. You guys tried the same crap with HIV/AIDS (which, by the way, can, and is contracted by homosexuals and heterosexuals alike). Now you're trotting it out again for monkeypox. Give it a rest.

And this is after you first tried to conflate homosexuality with pedophilia.
Please do better.

I don't think they even know love.

You can't seriously believe that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't think they even know love

Neither do you by the looks of it.

 

[muichimotsu]

In your post #363 you are referring to video in the OP, my question was about "this pastor" and you quoted me saying I did not watch the video.

You didn't watch the sermon, or even relative clips of said sermon where he definitely says they should be shot in the back of the head via firing squad. It's not the same pastor as in this video, problem remains, they're both associated to the same church and both likely hold very similar views