Space exploration = "male entitlement"?

[Revoltingest]

There is no climate change to stop, so maybe we can use that useless rhetoric to power our interplanetary spaceship.

Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there's GW, & that people cause it.
This has no bearing on space travel & colonization.
Colonies on Mars with this century's technology is not a "Plan B" to preserve our species.
Such colonies would be entirely dependent upon Earth for support, & would have only a
tiny tiny unsustainable population. The enormous resources consumed by such a project
would be better used here.
If we really fear humanity's demise, global warming won't be the cause. There'd be some
upheaval as populations move, but we'll survive. The real humanity killer would be a
Chicxalub type of event. To survive that, we need to think in those terms. The Svalbard
seed bank is one useful component of survival. We'd need communities designed to
survive exactly that kind of catastrophe.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sigh. Maybe it is a good thing that we will not reach other planets after all.

Perhaps in a few hundred years if/when technology makes it less costly & more useful.

 

[BSM1]

Sigh. Maybe it is a good thing that we will not reach other planets after all.

We'll keep the light on for ya...

 

[BSM1]

Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there's GW, & that people cause it.
This has no bearing on space travel & colonization.
Colonies on Mars with this century's technology is not a "Plan B" to preserve our species.
Such colonies would be entirely dependent upon Earth for support, & would have only a
tiny tiny unsustainable population. The enormous resources consumed by such a project
would be better used here.
If we really fear humanity's demise, global warming won't be the cause. There'd be some
upheaval as populations move, but we'll survive. The real humanity killer would be a
Chicxalub type of event. To survive that, we need to think in those terms. The Svalbard
seed bank is one useful component of survival. We'd need communities designed to
survive exactly that kind of catastrophe.

Actually I agree with you, but I like to stir the stew every now and then. I'd be willing to bet that most people have no idea what the Svalbard seed bank is (TBH I forgot the name).

 

[Curious George]

Opinion | Marcie Bianco: After pillaging Earth, the patriarchy looks to colonize Mars

Yeah, it's garbage like this that makes people who are otherwise egalitarian hesitant to identify as feminists. Thoughts?

Publish or perish. She needs to rile people up to get noticed. I think it is more important to analyze articles like this than it is to become reactionary.

She is mistaken in some of her assessments. The whole article suffers from a false equivalency. Though I would be interested to hear more @Quintessence thoughts regarding human kinds assumption of using planets for our whim, I do not think that the assumption that we ought to terraform and use another planet is wrong.

I think the article tries to explore the difference between "nurturing" a planet and using a planet. With the former being a feminine perspective and the later being a masculine perspective. Much of the colorful language is a distraction but I do not find exploring how we think of our relationship with other planets is an awful idea.

 

[sun rise]

How would people have felt if this was published in the Onion?

 

[BSM1]

How would people have felt if this was published in the Onion?

May bring tears to their eyes..

 

[Revoltingest]

How would people have felt if this was published in the Onion?

It wouldn't be as funny.

 

[Quetzal]

Colonies on Mars with this century's technology is not a "Plan B" to preserve our species.
Such colonies would be entirely dependent upon Earth for support, & would have only a
tiny tiny unsustainable population. The enormous resources consumed by such a project
would be better used here.

This is a great point that I agree with. To think we are close to colonizing Mars is naive. There is a lot that needs to happen first and we simply aren't there yet.

 

[Quetzal]

Well, I'm going to be the one to say it:

Off-color rhetoric aside, the author has a point. They're not the first to make this point, either. But, given the atmosphere of this thread is no doubt going to be hostile to anyone who doesn't agree with the OP's opinion of this article, I'm going to take my leave.

The problem is she might be right, but she chose the worst way to frame that opinion. She drew a hard line in the sand and refused to budge. She clearly has an ax to grind and wanted to let the world know she was mad at... something. We don't need that.

 

[Quetzal]

We'll keep the light on for ya...

Reminds me of those Motel 6 commercials.

 

[Father Heathen]

There is no climate change to stop.

Sorry, any rational and honest person will trust the international scientific community over U.S. politicians who were bought by lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry.
You do realize that the only people denying climate change are U.S. conservatives, one of the most scientifically illiterate demographics in the developed world, right? So yeah, no credibility there.

 

[Quetzal]

It's a bit late for that.

Tell me about it.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's a bit late for that.

Which is a shame considering that there are real, legitimate issues that women face; the pay gap, sexual harassment/assault, etc. but in true SJW fashion they have to manufacture controversy.

 

[Father Heathen]

The problem is she might be right, but she chose the worst way to frame that opinion. She drew a hard line in the sand and refused to budge. She clearly has an ax to grind and wanted to let the world know she was mad at... something. We don't need that.

Probably triggered by the phallic resemblance of the rockets.

 

[BSM1]

Sorry, any rational and honest person will trust the international scientific community over U.S. politicians who were bought by lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry.
You do realize that the only people denying climate change are U.S. conservatives, one of the most scientifically illiterate demographics in the developed world, right? So yeah, no credibility there.

Soooo....how high has the sea risen in your neck of the woods?

 

[Quetzal]

Soooo....how high has the sea risen in your neck of the woods?

Over the last 100 years or so? 6-8 inches (giggidty) according to the EPA: Climate Change Indicators: Sea Level | US EPA

 

[Father Heathen]

Soooo....how high has the sea risen in your neck of the woods?

"The horizon isn't curved, so the earth must be flat."
"If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys?"

 

[BSM1]

"The horizon isn't curved, so the earth must be flat."
"If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys?"

No rise huh?

 

[Father Heathen]

No rise huh?

Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Sea Level

I imagine that you don't consider NASA to be trustworthy source considering you probably believe that the moon landing was fake as well.