Spiritual Gifts

[Cateau]

Fruits are born of gifts and talents.

A 6th sense? being prophetic? Seeing beyond the here and now? Much of the future is what you make of it - the best gift is not knowing or prophesying what will happen, but instead controlling what will happen - make your own future, deciding what goals you have, and work towards your goals.

Treat people well, with trust and respect → usually they will respond by behaving well.
Define goals, and have confidence that you can reach those goals, work hard → reach goals

No mysticism needed, the realization that you can control your surroundings through work and how you act - that is the post powerful thing anyone can have I think.

I personally think nothing is under our control, only b/c the Father intervenes do things go accordingly like waking up or driving back home safe....when we don't wake up and have car accidents we say who could have known? Well no one b/c everything is too chaotic to predict which is why life is so precious, every breath a miracle.

 

[idea]

I personally think nothing is under our control, only b/c the Father intervenes do things go accordingly like waking up or driving back home safe....when we don't wake up and have car accidents we say who could have known? Well no one b/c everything is too chaotic to predict which is why life is so precious, every breath a miracle.

You are a determinist then? Chaos theory - a butterfly flaps its wings, starts a hurricane, and changes the price of rice? seems like there would be quite a few more hurricanes if every time a butterfly flaps its wings chaos would ensue...

I did not get in a car accident today, yesterday, or the previous years before that - I have not gotten in a car accident sense I was in HS - and that accident was caused because I was not experienced yet. Now that I am older and more experienced, I can avoid other trouble makers on the road, keep my vehicle in working order, and have successfully avoided accidents through my own conscience efforts

Not all, but most things in life, you can control yourself. I control where I go, what I do, what I think, I can even control my health - what I eat / exercise etc. I am not a victim of my surroundings - I control who I am, and the majority of what my future will bring.

 

[Cateau]

You are a determinist then? Chaos theory - a butterfly flaps its wings, starts a hurricane, and changes the price of rice? seems like there would be quite a few more hurricanes if every time a butterfly flaps its wings chaos would ensue...

I did not get in a car accident today, yesterday, or the previous years before that - I have not gotten in a car accident sense I was in HS - and that accident was caused because I was not experienced yet. Now that I am older and more experienced, I can avoid other trouble makers on the road, keep my vehicle in working order, and have successfully avoided accidents through my own conscience efforts

Not all, but most things in life, you can control yourself. I control where I go, what I do, what I think, I can even control my health - what I eat / exercise etc. I am not a victim of my surroundings - I control who I am, and the majority of what my future will bring.

It's probably a hurricane in the microscopic dimention, and scatters atoms and photons everywhere, probably lol. Yes you can control in so much as a drug controls an illness, but cure you cannot, that requires other forces. Sure you can thank your own self for swirving and acting fast to avoid a car accident, aceing a test after much studying or what have you; but really you can go into anything and get the opposite outcome of what was expected, blame your nerves, blame the timing... nothing is certain but death and taxes.

 

[Axe Elf]

Whatever, potato patada, I'll bet it's the same meaning guised in a different vernacular in a thesaurus somewhere.

Nope; the Fruits of the Spirit are theologically different from the spiritual gifts.

oh wow prophecy? I'm surprised you arnt being persecuted like all the good ones, don't worry you'll get there.

Your persecution almost makes me feel like I've already arrived.

Please share when you get a prophecy.

What do you think I've been doing on these forums for the past couple of months?

 

[Phantasman]

Someone asked me the other day how I was able to be so patient with everyone - I told them it was easy - just learn how to daydream, how to go places in your head when you are waiting for something or someone, and then it does not feel like waiting at all. Absent minded and disconnected = patient??

I think you can take any personality trait and call it a "gift" if you word it correctly... you can also turn anything you want into a curse, it all depends on if you want to be an optimist or a pessimist about yourself I guess.

Loving, kind, forgiving ↔ insecure doormat
Wise and all-knowing ↔ prideful academic
Faithful and loyal ↔ unable to change, dependent
?? its all relative...

Actually, I believe patience through understanding is what "grace" (from God) is. Why he provides grace though we are "sinful".

2 Corinth 12:
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

Paul saw his own imperfection(s) (sin). Yet God shows him he knows he is weak to them. That he understands Pauls weakness, and though Pauls thinks he is weak, he is made strong in spirit even though the flesh works against him. This is in line with John 8, the "flesh profits nothing". Seeing spirit, over (acts of) flesh through it's carnal desires.

 

[Frater Sisyphus]

You mean like pay it forward the movie...i don't think that can happen with spiritual gifts.....just the "fruits" of the spirit.

Never seen it

 

[Cateau]

Nope; the Fruits of the Spirit are theologically different from the spiritual gifts.



Your persecution almost makes me feel like I've already arrived.



What do you think I've been doing on these forums for the past couple of months?

Bwahaha... You are too hilarious, pffffffft plz a false prophet, you preach there is no power in prayer, thus the word of god yields no power in ur opinion.

 

[Cateau]

Never seen it

What....what generation r u? I'm Y, everyone I know has seen it, at least those born in the early 90s b/c if you didn't see on tv or when it came out, your teachers played it for you.

 

[Axe Elf]

Bwahaha... You are too hilarious, pffffffft plz a false prophet, you preach there is no power in prayer, thus the word of god yields no power in ur opinion.

Let's not talk nonsense, shall we?

I don't know about "power" in prayer and scripture, but the usefulness of prayer and scripture in aligning our minds with God's and understanding spiritual truths is indispensable. Anyone who says I claim otherwise simply hasn't been paying attention.

But keep up the persecution; like you said, it's an integral part of the prophet's lot.

 

[tayla]

Curse of the know it all lol, that is quite the burden i bet but I mean to be right all the time does not mean you have to correct everyone....or does it?? You feel you must?

Why bother correcting them?

 

[Dr. Mahlek]

My gift is: I'm always right, but no one ever believes me when I tell them something which always turns out to be right. Occasionally, after the fact, they will say I was right. But next time, they won't believe me again.

Not sure if that’s a gift or a curse. To watch people do silly things even after you’ve given sage advice only for them to ignore it over and over again...

I feel your pain.

 

[Cateau]

Let's not talk nonsense, shall we?

I don't know about "power" in prayer and scripture, but the usefulness of prayer and scripture in aligning our minds with God's and understanding spiritual truths is indispensable. Anyone who says I claim otherwise simply hasn't been paying attention.

But keep up the persecution; like you said, it's an integral part of the prophet's lot.

Nonsense is denial, I said I'd pray for you in a comment/post of yours(?) (the god being omnipresent or potent) b/c you don't think anything comes from doing it nor can it be proven to do so in ur opinion, so i recommended you two books, an article and youtube video about the article which you did not want to look into....im not persecuting you, I was sincere in all my replies, you did make me laugh, honestly I didn't know your posts were prophetic lol. But thing is if you believe in the god of the bible it's b/c you believe in the bible and the Son of Man wouldn't just say let us pray for one another just to say it. Stil praying for you mate....maybe I have to fast too lol.

 

[Cateau]

Why bother correcting them?

That's the question... but i think you gotta let em learn, honestly it's like you can't see what's coming??? Then blam! I would hate to have to say told u so, or for them to say you were right so I don't say anything.

 

[Quintessence]

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[A Vestigial Mote]

God, or whoever, granted me the gift of heat resistance - especially in my hands.

I use it to pass around my fellow-diners plates at restaurants when the wait-staff warns that the plates are too hot. Very spiritual stuff.

 

[Araceli Cianna]

I'm not a christian but I guess my gift is being a 'seer', I see stuff (mostly stuff I don't want to see!)

 

[sealchan]

Does anyone have a spiritual gift? Maybe wisdom like Solomon's, strength like Sampson's, healing capabilities like the Son of Man? Maybe not to that extreme but on some level what are your gifts.

Yes, the fruits of the spirit like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, selflessness, and self control are a deep rooted nessesity in following the narrow path but I just wanna hear about, ya know, "out there" stuff.

Why? Because I have a "gift " that I don't want, like I don't know why I still have it if I don't do anything with it and it bothers me that it will probably go off again and I just want to evade it.....is there no way to lose it? Well I know losing the HS through disobedience but I mean without doing that lol, I already prayed the first times but it is still there as time told.

I can do dream interpretation like (maybe better than) Joseph.

 

[sealchan]

You are a determinist then? Chaos theory - a butterfly flaps its wings, starts a hurricane, and changes the price of rice? seems like there would be quite a few more hurricanes if every time a butterfly flaps its wings chaos would ensue...

I did not get in a car accident today, yesterday, or the previous years before that - I have not gotten in a car accident sense I was in HS - and that accident was caused because I was not experienced yet. Now that I am older and more experienced, I can avoid other trouble makers on the road, keep my vehicle in working order, and have successfully avoided accidents through my own conscience efforts

Not all, but most things in life, you can control yourself. I control where I go, what I do, what I think, I can even control my health - what I eat / exercise etc. I am not a victim of my surroundings - I control who I am, and the majority of what my future will bring.

Why didn't you get into accidents all the time when you were young and inexperienced? Probably because it took a number of separate factors that one day that added up to you not making the right choice(s)...even here we have a possible butterfly wing effect.

 

[Cateau]

God, or whoever, granted me the gift of heat resistance - especially in my hands.

I use it to pass around my fellow-diners plates at restaurants when the wait-staff warns that the plates are too hot. Very spiritual stuff.

Wouldn't that be more like dissociation of pain? Or desensitization.

 

[Axe Elf]

Nonsense is denial, I said I'd pray for you in a comment/post of yours(?) (the god being omnipresent or potent) b/c you don't think anything comes from doing it nor can it be proven to do so in ur opinion, so i recommended you two books, an article and youtube video about the article which you did not want to look into...

I think you have me confused with someone else. That doesn't sound familiar, and I can't find any previous notifications from you before the ones in this thread.

honestly I didn't know your posts were prophetic

I get that a lot.