Spiritual Gifts

[Cateau]

I'm not a christian but I guess my gift is being a 'seer', I see stuff (mostly stuff I don't want to see!)

I'm non-denominational, don't worry I just want to know if anyone knows how to stop it all. Ohhh, been there sister lol. But only on rare instances, luckily it's not a very common occurrence....still freaked me out though, saw some disturbing things but the worse (or was it?) was seeing a monster outside my bedroom window. It was peering in with both hands (?) On the glass, it's like dude you have buldging bug eyes, you rlly think that's necessary? lol. What'd you see? Don't feel uncomfortable to share plz.

 

[Cateau]

I think you have me confused with someone else. That doesn't sound familiar, and I can't find any previous notifications from you before the ones in this thread.



I get that a lot.

Rlly...you think I would just say, oh let me pray for u and actually do it BY MISTAKE lol I think u have me confused but I don't have you confused b/c im judging by ur screen name and avatar but let's not talk anymore, i see this is going no where *cough* *denial* lol......uuuuhhhmm so yeeaahhh hope you feel different about it soon haha. LOLZ, omg......too funny, thought I was the only one to think it.

 

[Cateau]

I can do dream interpretation like (maybe better than) Joseph.

Whaaaaaat. Maybe better than? I'm impressed already lol. Congrats.

 

[Axe Elf]

Rlly...you think I would just say, oh let me pray for u and actually do it BY MISTAKE lol I think u have me confused but I don't have you confused b/c im judging by ur screen name and avatar but let's not talk anymore, i see this is going no where *cough* *denial* lol......uuuuhhhmm so yeeaahhh hope you feel different about it soon haha. LOLZ, omg......too funny, thought I was the only one to think it.

Well, I COULD be wrong; I just said I don't remember it and I don't see any notifications that you have replied, liked or quoted anything I have said in the past, before this thread. But if you want to talk about that, then you can link me to it so I can refresh my memory, and if you don't want to talk about it, then no harm, no foul, I guess.

 

[Cateau]

Well, I COULD be wrong; I just said I don't remember it and I don't see any notifications that you have replied, liked or quoted anything I have said in the past, before this thread. But if you want to talk about that, then you can link me to it so I can refresh my memory, and if you don't want to talk about it, then no harm, no foul, I guess.

Dude....srsly, I told u which post it was from and I'm sure you could spot my comment by spotting my avatar, not that I don't have time to go back and search it for it, snap a screen shot and show ya buuuttttt I guess it's not important after all ......ok im just LAZY!!! And now im going to bed but you'll be in my prayers *not creeper status* (just saying lol.) But stick to the bible bruh, maybe read it if you havn't. Ok bye.

 

[sealchan]

Whaaaaaat. Maybe better than? I'm impressed already lol. Congrats.

Well, I say that because the Genesis author's use of dreams is in a rather obvious mode of straight-forward analogy. Dreams are much more complicated than that. There may be predictive aspects to dreams but mainly they are a reflection of the dreamer's experience and personality.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I'm extremely sensitive to the emotions of others. When I see some one i don't know well and then see them again after a few minutes and their expression has changed I wonder if it is the same person. It affects me so much it's like a curse. And no one gets it.

 

[Cateau]

I'm extremely sensitive to the emotions of others. When I see some one i don't know well and then see them again after a few minutes and their expression has changed I wonder if it is the same person. It affects me so much it's like a curse. And no one gets it.

So it's like beauty? Lol, ugly is a curse too and I'll bet having a heart of flesh sux less than one of stone......i think caring and trusting are the worst thing ever, I'm trying to get rid of that too lol but noooo one seems to know how to answer my questions ohh well. Rlly? u wonder if it's the same person....that only happens to me if they lose weight, grow a beard or get a hair cut lol.

 

[Cateau]

Well, I say that because the Genesis author's use of dreams is in a rather obvious mode of straight-forward analogy. Dreams are much more complicated than that. There may be predictive aspects to dreams but mainly they are a reflection of the dreamer's experience and personality.

Well but see now, that's still tricky isn't it? Was it Daniel who foretold what dream Nebecanezer (Nebi...neb...ah forget it you know who I mean right lol) had? Concerning the statue? Now that would be quite a feat to tell someone what they dreamt and the meaning behind it.

 

[Quagmire]

I can do dream interpretation like (maybe better than) Joseph.

Cool! That would make a really interesting thread.

I mean, have people in here tell you their dreams and you could tell us what they mean.

 

[sealchan]

Cool! That would make a really interesting thread.

I mean, have people in here tell you their dreams and you could tell us what they mean.

I've done interpretation on dream forums for many years. I haven't been active lately, my inspiration comes and goes. If this forum wants to create an appropriate subforum, I'm sure I would contribute. It can be a lot of work, but I find it rewarding if others take it seriously.

 

[Ponder This]

Does anyone have a spiritual gift? Maybe wisdom like Solomon's, strength like Sampson's, healing capabilities like the Son of Man? Maybe not to that extreme but on some level what are your gifts.

Yes, the fruits of the spirit like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, selflessness, and self control are a deep rooted nessesity in following the narrow path but I just wanna hear about, ya know, "out there" stuff.

Why? Because I have a "gift " that I don't want, like I don't know why I still have it if I don't do anything with it and it bothers me that it will probably go off again and I just want to evade it.....is there no way to lose it? Well I know losing the HS through disobedience but I mean without doing that lol, I already prayed the first times but it is still there as time told.

My understanding is that when you can't control your gifts, then you have to learn to live with it. Sorry, but when that's the way it is, you have to embrace the path of struggle.
Jacob wrestles with the angel all night long. Some people don't get to run away. Well, obviously, you could, but... you won't / can't. In Tai Chi, there is a move 'Embrace the Tiger to the Mountain'. The uncontrollable Tiger is made passive by the Mountain's embrace. The tiger cannot be avoided it. If you run, it will chase you down. therefore embrace the Tiger.

 

[Araceli Cianna]

I'm non-denominational, don't worry I just want to know if anyone knows how to stop it all. Ohhh, been there sister lol. But only on rare instances, luckily it's not a very common occurrence....still freaked me out though, saw some disturbing things but the worse (or was it?) was seeing a monster outside my bedroom window. It was peering in with both hands (?) On the glass, it's like dude you have buldging bug eyes, you rlly think that's necessary? lol. What'd you see? Don't feel uncomfortable to share plz.

I didn't know how to answer your question but then I just posted the answer on another thread to a similar question. So if you want to read it then it's here

 

[Cateau]

My understanding is that when you can't control your gifts, then you have to learn to live with it. Sorry, but when that's the way it is, you have to embrace the path of struggle.
Jacob wrestles with the angel all night long. Some people don't get to run away. Well, obviously, you could, but... you won't / can't. In Tai Chi, there is a move 'Embrace the Tiger to the Mountain'. The uncontrollable Tiger is made passive by the Mountain's embrace. The tiger cannot be avoided it. If you run, it will chase you down. therefore embrace the Tiger.

I thought if u don't use it u lose it lol, to some degree anyway. Ok thanks for the advice....i guess, not what I wanted to hear lol but thanx.

 

[Cateau]

I didn't know how to answer your question but then I just posted the answer on another thread to a similar question. So if you want to read it then it's here

Where is "here"?

 

[Araceli Cianna]

Where is "here"?

I inserted the link in the word 'here', so just click on it and it should take you to it.

 

[Cateau]

I inserted the link in the word 'here', so just click on it and it should take you to it.

Ooooh, guess it was black/no hyperlink when I read it lol. I will go to it now thanx

 

[Cateau]

I inserted the link in the word 'here', so just click on it and it should take you to it.

Oh wow, yes I believe that also ones own mind can attract horrors, and if you have some psychic or spiritual gift it can make it worse.....idk if I should feel responsile for that "thing" showing up however lol, but maybe I did do it to myself who knows (too many factors playing out to be sure about anything really, have alot of theories can't prove any...damn lol.) One does tend to prode where they arnt suppose to when you are blessed (or cursed) with something that will nvr be fully understood....thats why I want to get rid of it, kinda dangerous. All in all, at least i can say....man o man, glad I don't have what u have as a "gift" lol, I'd end up for sure in silent hill *shutters.*

 

[idea]

Why didn't you get into accidents all the time when you were young and inexperienced? Probably because it took a number of separate factors that one day that added up to you not making the right choice(s)...even here we have a possible butterfly wing effect.

Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions.

It is not indeterminant, it is not random, it is just highly sensitive to initial conditions. Everything follows a set of laws - the faster these universal laws are recognized and applied, the more smoothly life seems to flow ... kick against the pricks? or go with the flow?

Once there lived a village of creatures along the bottom of a great crystal river. The current of the river swept silently over them all -- young and old, rich and poor, good and evil -- the current going its own way, knowing only its own crystal self.

Each creature in its own manner clung tightly to the twigs and rocks of the river bottom, for clinging was their way of life, and resisting the current was what each had learned from birth.

But one creature said at last, "I am tired of clinging. Though I cannot see it with my eyes, I trust that the current knows where it is going. I shall let go, and let it take me where it will. Clinging, I shall die of boredom."

The other creatures laughed and said, "Fool! Let go, and that current you worship will throw you tumbled and smashed against the rocks, and you will die quicker than boredom!"

But the one heeded them not, and taking a breath did let go, and at once was tumbled and smashed by the current across the rocks.

Yet in time, as the creature refused to cling again, the current lifted him free from the bottom, and he was bruised and hurt no more.

And the creatures downstream, to whom he was a stranger, cried, "See a miracle! A creature like ourselves, yet he flies! See the messiah, come to save us all!"

And the one carried in the current said, "I am no more messiah than you. The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go. Our true work is this voyage, this adventure."

But they cried the more, "Savior!" all the while clinging to the rocks, and when they looked again he was gone, and they were left alone making legends of a savior.

-- from Illusions by Richard Bach

 

[sealchan]

Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions.

It is not indeterminant, it is not random, it is just highly sensitive to initial conditions. Everything follows a set of laws - the faster these universal laws are recognized and applied, the more smoothly life seems to flow ... kick against the pricks? or go with the flow?

Once there lived a village of creatures along the bottom of a great crystal river. The current of the river swept silently over them all -- young and old, rich and poor, good and evil -- the current going its own way, knowing only its own crystal self.

Each creature in its own manner clung tightly to the twigs and rocks of the river bottom, for clinging was their way of life, and resisting the current was what each had learned from birth.

But one creature said at last, "I am tired of clinging. Though I cannot see it with my eyes, I trust that the current knows where it is going. I shall let go, and let it take me where it will. Clinging, I shall die of boredom."

The other creatures laughed and said, "Fool! Let go, and that current you worship will throw you tumbled and smashed against the rocks, and you will die quicker than boredom!"

But the one heeded them not, and taking a breath did let go, and at once was tumbled and smashed by the current across the rocks.

Yet in time, as the creature refused to cling again, the current lifted him free from the bottom, and he was bruised and hurt no more.

And the creatures downstream, to whom he was a stranger, cried, "See a miracle! A creature like ourselves, yet he flies! See the messiah, come to save us all!"

And the one carried in the current said, "I am no more messiah than you. The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go. Our true work is this voyage, this adventure."

But they cried the more, "Savior!" all the while clinging to the rocks, and when they looked again he was gone, and they were left alone making legends of a savior.

-- from Illusions by Richard Bach

Systems in general (not just non-linear and the even more specialized chaotic systems) consist of multiple parts interconnected often in feedback with mutually influencing or controlling effects. Sometimes I see the process of maturing as a gradual establishment of a minimal (tolerable) amount of rules one learns and commits to in order to avoid the unexpected for the presumed goal of achieving the desired. But in all cases when we persist we encounter some edge to our reality which is dangerous and our rules don't seem to protect us from reaching that edge, that metaphorical chaos.

I went to counseling some years back about dealing with my divorce and my continued relationship with my step children. There was fear and I was trying to compensate for the fear of others. However, my therapist mentioned the idea of there being a certain amount of "chaos" when moving from one stable system to another (she was systems training therapist), it suddenly struck me that I should make room for this high-energy, disorderliness in the transition in my family.

Your story reminds me of the notion of attractor basins and how one villager decided to stop fighting the energy pulling him out of his local basin of attraction...he thereby achieved the ability to transcend those particular basins.