Steve Bannon Suggests There Are Too Many Asian CEOs In Silicon Valley

[Shadow Wolf]

What on earth is going on over there. Seriously. :/

A serious and critical overdose of mind corroding concentrated stupid that has me seriously considering being an English teacher, becoming an ex-Pat, and live abroad traveling from country to country teaching English, and settling down when I find a place that has a tolerable level of craziness and stupidity.
But living in the MidWest Bible Belt, that may not take much, lol.

 

[dgirl1986]

A serious and critical overdose of mind corroding concentrated stupid that has me seriously considering being an English teacher, becoming an ex-Pat, and live abroad traveling from country to country teaching English, and settling down when I find a place that has a tolerable level of craziness and stupidity.
But living in the MidWest Bible Belt, that may not take much, lol.

I don't know how you do it!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Nothing can be fully fair. Nothing. All groups prefer their own. You think by choosing certain minorities and placing them in power, they won't choose their own? Tribalism is far deeper and rooted than you think.

I understand the power of innate response mechanisms.

And you are right. Nothing can be fully fair. But you don't think that after centuries of slavery and inhumane treatment we shouldn't do what we can to give African Americans a chance at an equitable society? Or since it was only in 1920 woman got the right to vote and are still fighting an income gap we shouldn't do something to prevent sexism from retaining inequality? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States#Example_of_success_in_women)

And businesses work more or less on merit, more than anything else. It is the public sector that uses affirmative action to the max. A business would be far more fair to all races than universities, govt jobs or professional schools. To them all that matters is the bottom dollar and productivity with results is king.

Ah...but shouldn't it be in the public sector that affirmative action be the most prevalent? There is still an atrocious education gap when it comes to blacks vs. whites, and shouldn't government jobs represent all Americans?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Generally, I'm not in favor of different rules for different groups, and while Affirmative Action does have its problems, and it doesn't actually address what it's intended to ameliorate, at least someone tried to put a band aid over the problem, and it's hardly "being afraid of hard work" and "campaigning against successful minorities."

Right. I think affirmative action is one of those things that should be used as hurdle help to get a disadvantaged group educated and into the economy. After that, I do think we need to pay attention to make sure the group isn't falling through the cracks. In other words, it's important to help each other since we are a multicultural society.

 

[fantome profane]

His problem wasn't that they were Asian, but that they were from Asia. Do you understand the distinction? Do you understand why having 2/3 of Silicon Valley's CEOs being from Asia might be a problem?

No, I don't understand the distinction. Explain it to me. Are you suggesting that 2/3 of Silicon Valley CEO's are illegal immigrants?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't know how you do it!

I do with the dreams of finally getting away from here, and not having urges to watch Bill Maher because rational and logical discussions that don't involve god and religion aren't coming up anywhere and everywhere. It's such a constant and regular thing, even my electrolysis asked, wondering why god gave us hair? I can also see billboards advertising the "Creation Museum" about 70 miles south of here, and a billboard here locally explaining no one comes to Father except through the Son, and even a church readerboard once asking that if evolution is true, why don't moms have four arms? It's so Conservative here that I'm stunned whenever I hear of public prayer and nativity scenes being a controversy, because they are so regular, normal, and every day here.
Now, the ironic thing, that I learned from when I used to be one of those Bible Thumping loons, is they think they are the ones who are under attack.

 

[Watchmen]

No, I don't understand the distinction. Explain it to me. Are you suggesting that 2/3 of Silicon Valley CEO's are illegal immigrants?

No. I said nothing of illegal immigration. Being Asian means you are of Asian descent. Being "from Asia" means you are from an Asian country. I think B's statement was about his concern that so many CEO's are from Asian countries (and, by extension, that the companies are not US companies, but Asian companies). I also think that, by extension, there is concern about the high amount of Chinese investment in Silicon Valley. The situation is similar to someone raising concerns about the Chinese and Japanese buying up all the real estate in California. Do you think raising such a concern is racist?

 

[fantome profane]

No. I said nothing of illegal immigration.

So they are American.

Being Asian means you are of Asian descent. Being "from Asia" means you are from an Asian country. I think B's statement was about his concern that so many CEO's are from Asian countries (and, by extension, that the companies are not US companies, but Asian companies).

No, that is absurd. If a company is own by an American, run by an American, employs Americans, and sells to Americans it is an America company. Just because some of those Americans were born somewhere else does not change that.

I also think that, by extension, there is concern about the high amount of Chinese investment in Silicon Valley. The situation is similar to someone raising concerns about the Chinese and Japanese buying up all the real estate in California. Do you think raising such a concern is racist?

If you are talking about real estate being purchased by citizens of China, or Japan (foreign nationals) I can understand the concern (whether or not I agree is more complicated, but I can understand it). If you are talking about Americans who may be from another country (like Bannon was) then yes, I think that is the very definition of racism.


Btw. let's not forget that this is bull from the start. Nowhere near 2/3 of CEO's in silicon valley are Asian, or from Asia or anything like that. Just that statement is false, ignorant and racist. It is no different than saying the Jews own all the banks. Saying the Asians run all the computer companies is racist.

 

[Watchmen]

So they are American. No, that is absurd. If a company is own by an American, run by an American, employs Americans, and sells to Americans it is an America company. Just because some of those Americans were born somewhere else does not change that. If you are talking about real estate being purchased by citizens of China, or Japan (foreign nationals) I can understand the concern (whether or not I agree is more complicated, but I can understand it). If you are talking about Americans who may be from another country (like Bannon was) then yes, I think that is the very definition of racism.


Btw. let's not forget that this is bull from the start. Nowhere near 2/3 of CEO's in silicon valley are Asian, or from Asia or anything like that. Just that statement is false, ignorant and racist. It is no different than saying the Jews own all the banks. Saying the Asians run all the computer companies is racist.

My point is that they are NOT American. They are "from Asia" as in Asian countries. And they are running foreign companies in America. I am not talking about American companies. Do you think there are only American companies in Silicon Valley??! There are over 700 Japanese companies alone in the area. Do you get it now?

 

[fantome profane]

My point is that they are NOT American. They are "from Asia" as in Asian countries. And they are running foreign companies in America. I am not talking about American companies. Do you think there are only American companies in Silicon Valley??! There are over 700 Japanese companies alone in the area. Do you get it now?

That is completely different from what Bannon was saying. He was talking about CEO's, not ownership. There are no CEO's working in silicon valley, or anywhere else in the U.S., who are not American citizens.

 

[Watchmen]

That is completely different from what Bannon was saying. He was talking about CEO's, not ownership. There are no CEO's working in silicon valley, or anywhere else in the U.S., who are not American citizens.

Now you're being absurd. Where do you think the CEOs of Asian companies come from? Example. NTT is a Japanese company. It's CEO is Japanese. It has a presence in Silicon Valley.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Now you're being absurd. Where do you think the CEOs of Asian companies come from? Example. NTT is a Japanese company. It's CEO is Japanese. It has a presence in Silicon Valley.

They tend to have American divisions with American CEOs.

 

[fantome profane]

Now you're being absurd. Where do you think the CEOs of Asian companies come from? Example. NTT is a Japanese company. It's CEO is Japanese. It has a presence in Silicon Valley.

Are you suggesting that a Japanese company is doing business in the U.S. and employing Americans instead of staying in Japan and giving those jobs to Japanese workers? The Japanese should be upset about this outsourcing, not Bannon. This is an example of when America is on the receiving end of outsourcing.

 

[Watchmen]

Are you suggesting that a Japanese company is doing business in the U.S. and employing Americans instead of staying in Japan and giving those jobs to Japanese workers? The Japanese should be upset about this outsourcing, not Bannon. This is an example of when America is on the receiving end of outsourcing.

Sigh.

Yes, they pay Americans, but he money for their products and services goes back to Japan. It doesn't stay here. Are you going to admit that you were wrong by assuming Brannon's comment was racist? Can you really not see the potential issue with too many Asian run companies taking over the Valley? Wouldn't it be great if glee had more home grown companies?

 

[Watchmen]

They tend to have American divisions with American CEOs.

American "CEOs" who report to the Asian headquarters. And, it's not always true that they have American CEOs.

 

[fantome profane]

Are you going to admit that you were wrong by assuming Brannon's comment was racist?

You have only demonstrated and continue to demonstrate how incredibly racist Bannon's comment was.

 

[idav]

My point is that they are NOT American. They are "from Asia" as in Asian countries. And they are running foreign companies in America. I am not talking about American companies. Do you think there are only American companies in Silicon Valley??! There are over 700 Japanese companies alone in the area. Do you get it now?

We should be asking ourselves why even Microsoft ends up hiring an Asian born CEO. I've worked with some of those Asian dudes and they are freaking smart.

 

[dgirl1986]

I do with the dreams of finally getting away from here, and not having urges to watch Bill Maher because rational and logical discussions that don't involve god and religion aren't coming up anywhere and everywhere. It's such a constant and regular thing, even my electrolysis asked, wondering why god gave us hair? I can also see billboards advertising the "Creation Museum" about 70 miles south of here, and a billboard here locally explaining no one comes to Father except through the Son, and even a church readerboard once asking that if evolution is true, why don't moms have four arms? It's so Conservative here that I'm stunned whenever I hear of public prayer and nativity scenes being a controversy, because they are so regular, normal, and every day here.
Now, the ironic thing, that I learned from when I used to be one of those Bible Thumping loons, is they think they are the ones who are under attack.

I would probably consider moving to a less conservative location. I hear those in the more populated states don't have to deal with it as much.

 

[Watchmen]

You have only demonstrated and continue to demonstrate how incredibly racist Bannon's comment was.

Wrong. The prevalence of Asian companies at the potential expense of American companies is a problem. His comments weren't racist at all. It is clear you simply hate Trump and will twist his people's words to support your own views. From the very beginning you showed a bias by changing "from Asia" to "Asian." Disgusting.

 

[Watchmen]

We should be asking ourselves why even Microsoft ends up hiring an Asian born CEO. I've worked with some of those Asian dudes and they are freaking smart.

I don't disagree.