Support for Things That Harm Others

[Fool]

Capitalism is human freedom. Your ignorance is noted.

Capitalism is a service to self. The focus is on profiting off of another. It isn't about love. You can't serve two masters. Your contempt towards love is again duly noted

 

[Sand Dancer]

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.

Yes, it is biblical.

But other verses do not agree. That is the thing with the Bible. So many different authors with different views have been put in a book made to be a cohesive whole. It messes things up.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Yes, a calling

I’m sure I’m misunderstanding you here but just to be on safe-side: are you saying that you consider us to have the authority to label women (all women [generally/ categorically, that is]) as being called to serve humanity through their wombs?

You may be saying that. Some people really do think like this. I stay away from them.

 

[Polymath257]

So do cars, but not usually by intent.

Guns are a tool. Violence is a human choice.

The purpose of a car is not to kill. When it kills, it is usually by accident.

The purpose of a gun is to kill.

 

[Left Coast]

This question is not just about abortion but also any other freedom that considerably affects specific groups' well-being, health, or safety.

If you are a conservative, liberal, or otherwise and you oppose, say, the legalization of elective abortion, right to proselytize or openly practice one's religion (which is banned in some countries, such as Saudi Arabia, for all but the majority religion), or same-sex marriage, how do you square that with having friends who may be negatively affected by such legislation?

For example, I have conservative friends who have told me that knowing me has changed their views on apostasy: whereas they previously believed that apostates should face capital punishment, knowing one on a personal level has added a layer to their views on the issue that they didn't consider before. They changed their mind when the issue no longer became a mere distant abstraction to them.

So, if you support or oppose certain things such as the above and know someone who falls into a category of people who will be affected by them, do you take into consideration the effects of said views or a vote based on them on your friend, acquaintance, etc.? How do you address the knowledge that they may be harmed by something you endorse?

This one of the things that changed my mind with regard to legalization of marijuana. When I was younger I had no idea that there were so many people we put in prison because of using or selling weed. When I learned that, and also I think when I was exposed to more people who smoked pot, my attitude certainly softened.

I recall similar statistics with regard to attitudes about gay marriage and whether or not people actually know someone gay in their personal lives.

 

[KW]

Capitalism is a service to self. The focus is on profiting off of another. It isn't about love. You can't serve two masters. Your content towards love is again duly noted

All capitalist transactions are voluntary.

 

[Fool]

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.

Yes, it is biblical.

This quote speaks to the spirit. Not to the form in the womb. The form doesn't get a spirit until it takes the breath of life. The form may never become spirited, alive

 

[ChristineM]

Yes.

If my neighbor on my right attacks me I have no right to attack my neighbor on the left.

Ok so killing you wife is ok.

Or forcing her to live a life constantly remanded of violence and misery.

Sorry, i just don't see your rational.

 

[KW]

This quote speaks to the spirit. Not to the form in the womb. The form doesn't get a spirit until it takes the breath of life. The form may never become spirited, alive

If God knows you, you are a person.

Killing an innocent person on purpose is murder.

 

[Yerda]

Yes, just like abolitionist rhetoric against slavery. The innocent should be protected from the killers.

"it is part of the culture of death pushed on us by the left" deosn't strike me as similar to anti-abolitionist rhetoric in any fashion. We must have encountered different anti-slavery material.

I think you're wrong about abortion and that the anti-abortion position was thoroughly discredited decades ago. But just for clarity,

• a feotus isn't a person
• pro choice isn't limited to the left
• it was the anti-choice side who bombed abortion clinics, murdered doctors and nurses, harrassed and intimidated patients.

I would rather we could have this debate without accusing the other side of being death cultists. I believe that you're motivated by love. I am too.

 

[Fool]

All capitalist transactions are voluntary.

Yes, God's will or selfish. Today is set before you to choose God's will or self's

 

[Debater Slayer]

This one of the things that changed my mind with regard to legalization of marijuana. When I was younger I had no idea that there were so many people we put in prison because of using or selling weed. When I learned that, and also I think when I was exposed to more people who smoked pot, my attitude certainly softened.

I recall similar statistics with regard to attitudes about gay marriage and whether or not people actually know someone gay in their personal lives.

Exposure to people of various religious and cultural backgrounds online was also why I started questioning my former beliefs about them. Talking to LGBT people and realizing the abstract notions of them I had in mind were false and exaggerated also certainly set off a chain reaction of doubt and reconsideration in my mind.

 

[KW]

"it is part of the culture of death pushed on us by the left" deosn't strike me as similar to anti-abolitionist rhetoric in any fashion. We must have encountered different anti-slavery material.

I think you're wrong about abortion and that the anti-abortion position was thoroughly discredited decades ago. But just for clarity,

• a feotus isn't a person
• pro choice isn't limited to the left
• it was the anti-choice side who bombed abortion clinics, murdered doctors and nurses, harrassed and intimidated patients.

I would rather we could have this debate without accusing the other side of being death cultists. I believe that you're motivated by love. I am too.

Leftist gibberish attempting to avoid addressing the brutal slaughter of babies in the womb.

 

[KW]

Ok so killing you wife is ok.

Or forcing her to live a life constantly remanded of violence and misery.

Sorry, i just don't see your rational.

More idiocy.

 

[Fool]

If God knows you, you are a person.

Killing an innocent person on purpose is murder.

God knows the spirit because God is spirit. You were told to worship in spirit and glorify God in your body. God, the eternal spirit doesn't have an exact form. Your spirit doesn't have to have a form. You are a materialist. You don't believe in god

 

[Yerda]

Leftist gibberish attempting to avoid addressing the brutal slaughter of babies in the womb.

More divisive rhetoric.

 

[Altfish]

But isn't that what a mother is doing? Hosting a wayfarer? A sojourner? Helping someone on a journey by providing them shelter and nourishment?

Then call that person 'Mother'

 

[KW]

"it is part of the culture of death pushed on us by the left" deosn't strike me as similar to anti-abolitionist rhetoric in any fashion. We must have encountered different anti-slavery material.

I think you're wrong about abortion and that the anti-abortion position was thoroughly discredited decades ago. But just for clarity,

• a feotus isn't a person
• pro choice isn't limited to the left
• it was the anti-choice side who bombed abortion clinics, murdered doctors and nurses, harrassed and intimidated patients.

I would rather we could have this debate without accusing the other side of being death cultists. I believe that you're motivated by love. I am too.

The abortion industry is a billion dollar death cult.

 

[sun rise]

Abortion kills the innocent.

It is part of the culture of death pushed on us by the left.

It treats human beings as tools to be used.

Free access to guns kills the innocent.

It is part of the culture of death pushed on us by the right.

It treats human beings as pop-up targets to be slaughtered.

 

[sun rise]

The abortion industry is a billion dollar death cult.

The gun industry is a billion dollar death cult.