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All the same, I'll go with the crowd that is taught to fish.
So eff you hungry people! Go take care of yourselves.
Giving to charity is bad because ... Taylor Swift.
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Swift endorsing Harris...
- Thread starter Regiomontanus
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This was interesting:
www.tmz.com
Mother Selling Taylor Swift Tickets Because of Kamala Harris Endorsement
Taylor Swift's support of Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election has cost her the support of at least one fan ... who's calling out T-Swift's faith.
www.tmz.com
We Never Know
No Slack
Wasn't he at the RNC?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I think this is interesting:
Democrats being party of the rich could cost them 2024 election
A growing body of research shows wealthier Americans flocking to the Democratic Party. The working class, meanwhile, has been forgotten.www.newsweek.com
I suspect much of that support may be because Democrats have a better record when it comes to the economy. Even if the rich still profit during recessions, they may not profit as much, and the article cites specifically millionaires who are likely more impacted by bad economies. This may be even with higher taxes on the rich.
For those middle and lower class voters who may be swayed by the optics of who rich folks support, it would be good to remember that while Democrats have been visibly shifting right since Reagan due to the ridiculous notion that New Deal era ideals aren't popular (they are), they are still the party more willing to invest in new infrastructure, the environment, tax the wealthy, support welfare and will probably be the party that does things like get universal healthcare for all Americans.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Couldn't all this also be said of Trump, who is the one actually running for President opposing Swift's endorsed candidate?
Colt
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
I think it was a timely endorsement from Taylor Swift that will help Kamala's campaign.
Like all of these endorsements, the benefits will be at the margins, same with the Kid Rock endorsement.
It seems like it may have backfired:
Taylor Swift’s endorsement backfires on Kamala Harris
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris appears to have backfired, according to a poll.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
That's not condescending at all. Great position.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yeppers.
Ponder This
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I did not expect that.It seems like it may have backfired:
Taylor Swift’s endorsement backfires on Kamala Harris
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris appears to have backfired, according to a poll.www.yahoo.com
Pogo
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It was not a poll of Swift fans but a general poll that included many people who wouldn't have even thought of the question unless it was asked. Even at that, it indicated a positive effect though diluted by that majority that wouldn't have thought about it.
Ponder This
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Hmm. Would people who could care less about Taylor Swift really respond that they are less likely to vote for Kamala because Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala? I wouldn't think so, although you seem to be suggesting that that's the case.
20% > 8%
Are there really more than twice as many people who dislike Taylor than like her to such an extent that her opinion would influence their vote? I wouldn't think so. Did people just answer the poll as if Taylor Swift's opinion mattered to them, when it really didn't matter at all?
Pogo
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Yes, if you asked the average person on the street about Taylor swift and her influence the rational reaction would be that I have no clue who this person is and is and random recomendations from celebrities would only make me less likely to support whatever they were supporting.
I actually read the whole survey and that was all they could come out of it with in Trumps favor and even at that they had to admit that 6% of people who knew who Taylor Swift was were more likely to vote for Kamala Harris than before.
It was a nice try at spin and suckered a lot of people.
anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
It seems like it may have backfired:
Taylor Swift’s endorsement backfires on Kamala Harris
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris appears to have backfired, according to a poll.
I don't think that's the gotcha MAGA are making it out to be, but it got the right headline and that's all they want.
More progressives/Dems have a positive view of Taylor Swift than conservatives do, and I see how she's consistently swatted down on conservative sites. Unfortunately there was no link to the survey in your article so I had to hunt it down. When you look at the numbers, they basically reflect what you'd expect, knowing that a majority of progressives have a positive view of her and a minority of conservatives do not. It seems like it's much ado about nothing, really.
Page 103 here:
Ponder This
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According tot he article, there were 66% that said it wouldn't affect their vote. I don't buy the idea that 20% are saying that they are less likely to vote for Harris simply because they don't know who Taylor Swift is and see her as a random celebrity. I think you are wrong there. Also, it was 8% that were "somewhat" or "much more likely" to vote for Ms Harris. The article says that 6% said that the debate caused them to change their vote. It didn't say in what way they changed their votes. Perhaps the problem is that Taylor Swift's political views were already unpopular with people. That would explain how her endorsement would cause more people to be less likely to vote for Kamala.
It seems that, like most people, I thought the Taylor Swift endorsement would help Kamala. But I can't come up with a convincing argument against the poll result. That said, I would agree that the effect of such endorsements tends to be marginal anyway.