Father Heathen
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Well within the context of unisex restrooms urinals don't make sense as far as practicality and being efficient with space.
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Tampons too "woke" for conservatives.
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Subduction Zone
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They might have meant it but they definitely should have made it clear. And I know that it can be a pain to have to carry such products, but 3/4 of the girls found themselves without tampons or pads and could not get any when needed? I find that hard to believe too.Perhaps they meant 3 out of 4 female students?
And merely presumed the reader would assume as such
Subduction Zone
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I am not so sure. If it was a large restroom men could still make use of the urinals. Hopefully the women folk won't be coming up and trying to look over their shoulders. Men can get in and out of the bathrooms much more quickly. Especially if they do not wash up afterwards
Many unisex toilets in france are cubicles but some have both cubicle and urinals.
Secret Chief
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I'm trying not to analyse it
Secret Chief
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The ones at school are cubicle-only. The new ones in my local shopping centre have both.
Whilst quite the shocking statistic, you’d be surprised what a difference sex Ed makes for a girl. If I had the US equivalent that I’ve heard so much about, I don’t think I would be confident enough to ask for menstrual products as a teenager.
I count myself lucky that though my mother was clearly embarrassed by such discussions, she was still open with me and was willing to teach me about products and all that goes with it (experimenting to see which you prefer, for example.) This on top of comprehensive lessons on puberty, biology and sex education made the experience much less harrowing.
The first few times is not only embarrassing, it can also be very inconsistent as the body gets “used” to it, for lack of a better phrase.
So I can believe that a lot of girls miss class due to confusion and embarrassment
Where is the informative frube when you need it
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Welcome to America. My best friend, one of her friends was caught unprepared, asked my friend if she had any thing, and my friend gave her a tampon. My friend's friend didn't know what's what, didn't open it and inserted wrapper and all.
Dang man!!
My friend did something similar, only by accident (she was in a rush)
The school chaplain helped her to the nursing station and seemed upset with us for not stopping her. In a sort of “you should know better” kind of way
I recall all through that week the school nurse suddenly appeared in many of my classes to do a “refresher” on how tampons worked. The boys were bored by the end, I bet
Shadow Wolf
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Now I'm curious, because here the boys would have been grossed out amd insisting they shouldn't be there and they shouldn't know, and the adults would probably agree and not educate them about something that's likely to come up even in their life having girlfriends and such who tend to do that menstruating thing.
Shadow Wolf
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So? Nothing wrong with helping people and making society work for all.
Yeah I’ve noticed that American culture seems utterly immature and embarrassed by such topics
No offence
In my experience (and I’m sure this differs from others) by maybe grade 4-5, which is roughly 8-9 years old, the boys in my classes were all very calm and listened to the sex Ed classes in bored silence.
I’m sure they joked immaturely with their friends outside of class. But you rarely had boys or girls snickering or giggling or too embarassed during sex education classes. Because by early high school, which for us is grade 8 or 12-13 years old, you already had like 4 or 5 classes on what happens during puberty. Not in detail mind you, that came a little later. But the basics anyway. So we were kind of just used to it by then and shrugged off such information as just another class
I remember in grade 10 (15 years old) my biology class, which was an elective course, did an in depth graphic explanation of what happens during puberty, menstrual cycles, sex and pregnancy. No one was grossed out, no one even made any reactions.
By then I already had 2 elective (health/home economics and PE) and 1 mandatory courses (sex education) specifically on puberty and the menstrual cycle
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SkepticThinker
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I don't know about the first part, but "getting away when needed" was often a problem for me in high school. For some reason, teachers are real sticklers about bathroom breaks. And I used to have to change my tampon a LOT. Plus, there's the whole thing of trying to sneak it to the bathroom in your pocket so nobody sees it.
Shadow Wolf
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Fifth grade for me, boys and girls were separated for their own puberty stuff. I didn't go (I made it a regular habit to avoid as much being with others in school as possible), and it's a good thing. All the boys (who I'd have been with struggling with the trans thing at the time) came back with a pamphlets thingy with anatomy book like pictures. All the boys decided to show the girls when they got back to the room (and sense I didn't go I had no pamphlet and it was a rare moment where I didn't get in trouble anyways).
The girls were embarrassed, the boys unashamed, and then they got another lecture, but about what I don't know. I was still in the classroom with the girls, discussing what was covered in their video or whatever it was.
However, adults are the worst when it comes to periods, men and women alike. Some women treat it like some military secret tbat involves sexual things and act like it's not a normal thing for women and nothing to be shamed of amd go out of your way to totally hide (I don't know if ableism is the right word, but it's very similar), while some guys have an embarrassing lack of knowledge of it while embarrassingly going out of their way to completely avoid it.
Secret Chief
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Some American tourists might appreciate knowing this so that they can bring a portaloo with them.
Secret Chief
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Totally get what you're saying but I can see it from the school's side too (I work in one). Without the "stickler" element, half of the class would spend half of every lesson off on a toilet break (actually to go on their moblle phone and/or generally muck about).
Subduction Zone
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Clearly this is something that I have never experienced. Frankly I cannot see a reason to oppose this anymore than I could see an opposition to providing toilet paper and other necessities.