Tampons too "woke" for conservatives.

[SomeRandom]

Fifth grade for me, boys and girls were separated for their own puberty stuff. I didn't go (I made it a regular habit to avoid as much being with others in school as possible), and it's a good thing. All the boys (who I'd have been with struggling with the trans thing at the time) came back with a pamphlets thingy with anatomy book like pictures. All the boys decided to show the girls when they got back to the room (and sense I didn't go I had no pamphlet and it was a rare moment where I didn't get in trouble anyways).
The girls were embarrassed, the boys unashamed, and then they got another lecture, but about what I don't know. I was still in the classroom with the girls, discussing what was covered in their video or whatever it was.
However, adults are the worst when it comes to periods, men and women alike. Some women treat it like some military secret tbat involves sexual things and act like it's not a normal thing for women and nothing to be shamed of amd go out of your way to totally hide (I don't know if ableism is the right word, but it's very similar), while some guys have an embarrassing lack of knowledge of it while embarrassingly going out of their way to completely avoid it.

I’d give you an informative frubal if I could. But the sad face seemed equally applicable.
Since I think it’s a shame that menstrual cycles are treated as such

Teen boys can be immature about such things and I don’t really hold it against them. They are still growing and maturing after all. So I mean it’s fair enough if they are grossed out by it for a while at their age. They’re still learning

But adults treating it as you say, that makes me sad. Because it shames girls and women for a completely natural and mandatory experience. These folks, I assume, also extol the virtues of nature and “God’s Design?”
I mean periods technically fall under both categories so why the enforced shame and embarrassment?
Out of curiosity, are erections in minors treated the same way?
Because here that was also discussed in depth during multiple sex Ed classes. So there was no shame attached

Just to clarify. Here sex education was split by the sexes in the lower grades. It was only coed once I reached high school age. Don’t know if that’s still the case. Just my experience

 

[Subduction Zone]

Providing personal care products is not a required function of publicly funded schools.

Damn straight! Hmm, it does not get much more personal than toilet paper. Ban toilet paper too!!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Out of curiosity, are erections in minors treated the same way?

Actually, sort of. It too can just happened, but in Indiana it is illegal for a man to walk around with an erection. That too is considered embarrassing, problematic and called an "unwanted boner."

 

[Secret Chief]

Actually, sort of. It too can just happened, but in Indiana it is illegal for a man to walk around with an erection.

Please tell me you're joking.

 

[JustGeorge]

I'm lost too.
My school has now gone over to unisex toilets. That'll probably outrage somebody. It can only lead to boys using tampons, or something.

My son's high school has had unisex toilets for quite some time.

An added benefit seems to be that kids are more likely to use the toilet and get back to class, rather than chill. Less instances of bathroom bullying, too.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Please tell me you're joking.

Nope. Wish I was, but I am not.

Fellas, Ever Been Aroused in Public? It's Illegal in Indiana!

You might want to rethink where your blood flow goes in public!

1061evansville.com

 

[SkepticThinker]

Totally get what you're saying but I can see it from the school's side too (I work in one). Without the "stickler" element, half of the class would spend half of every lesson off on a toilet break (actually to go on their moblle phone and/or generally muck about).

Probably. It just really sucks for those of us who actually have something to do in the bathroom.
Believe me, I'd love, love, love to not have to go at all.

 

[SomeRandom]

Actually, sort of. It too can just happened, but in Indiana it is illegal for a man to walk around with an erection.

Wow, really? I mean it might be illegal here as well. Not really sure of the specifics.
But still
Damn

Out of curiosity, how were the discussions surrounding sex ed topics among your peers in high school? I know you said you didn’t interact too much and neither did I, to be honest. I’m just curious as to what kind of discussions you might have seen in your experience and how it may have differed to mine

For example, my friends and I would often discus at length the various nuances of our own menstrual cycles. Since such talk was encouraged, maybe not explicitly, but since the environment of puberty discussions was always so open to us, I guess we just didn’t think twice about telling our mates about our experiences or issues.

From what I hear about the American attitude, I’m a little concerned about what the kids actually tell each other, if I’m being completely honest

 

[Secret Chief]

Nope. Wish I was, but I am not.

Fellas, Ever Been Aroused in Public? It's Illegal in Indiana!

You might want to rethink where your blood flow goes in public!

1061evansville.com

So many questions....would an officer want to make an arrest or is it an on the spot fine? Would the officer need a photo or video for evidence? Could it go to court if contested? Is there a particular angle at which it becomes a criminal offence? What if it's just a semi? ...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Wow, really? I mean it might be illegal here as well. Not really sure of the specifics.
But still
Damn

Out of curiosity, how were the discussions surrounding sex ed topics among your peers in high school? I know you said you didn’t interact too much and neither did I, to be honest. I’m just curious as to what kind of discussions you might have seen in your experience and how it may have differed to mine

For example, my friends and I would often discus at length the various nuances of our own menstrual cycles. Since such talk was encouraged, maybe not explicitly, but since the environment of puberty discussions was always so open to us, I guess we just didn’t think twice about telling our mates about our experiences or issues.

From what I hear about the American attitude, I’m a little concerned about what the kids actually tell each other, if I’m being completely honest

I don't know. I went from deeply isolating myself at public school and then I was sent to a church for school. That environment had zero such discussions, and the only one i did interact with was a guy who was also working to become a preacher.

 

[Secret Chief]

Probably. It just really sucks for those of us who actually have something to do in the bathroom.
Believe me, I'd love, love, love to not have to go at all.

I hear you. Lessons are 1 hour 20 minutes long - quite a stretch. Pupils can apply to have toilet pass cards at their request (confirmed with parents/care-givers).

 

[metis]

I remember in grade 10 (15 years old) my biology class, which was an elective course, did an in depth graphic explanation of what happens during puberty, menstrual cycles, sex and pregnancy. No one was grossed out, no one even made any reactions.
By then I already had 2 elective (health/home economics and PE) and 1 mandatory courses (sex education) specifically on puberty and the menstrual cycle

Exactly, because once out in the full open it no longer a game of hide & seek.

A study done in Italy found that when people are completely naked, they tend to be less erotic because there's no "hide & seek effect".

 

[Secret Chief]

My son's high school has had unisex toilets for quite some time.

An added benefit seems to be that kids are more likely to use the toilet and get back to class, rather than chill. Less instances of bathroom bullying, too.

That's good to know. I was hoping it made for a better "ambience."

 

[SomeRandom]

I don't know. I went from deeply isolating myself at public school and then I was sent to a church for school. That environment had zero such discussions, and the only one i did interact with was a guy who was also working to become a preacher.

Fair enough

 

[SomeRandom]

Exactly, because once out in the full open it no longer a game of hide & seek.

A study done in Italy found that when people are completely naked, they tend to be less erotic because there's no "hide & seek effect".

Agreed
Out in the open, so to speak, is a much healthier attitude to have. Because it takes away the shame and embarrassment.
So people can be open and discuss all their issues without some cloud of socially enforced shame to hinder them

And as you say, a much healthier attitude of sex and the human body is found

 

[Shaul]

So? Nothing wrong with helping people and making society work for all.

So, the primary mission should not be impacted by doing so and it is optional. Therefore this legislature was correct in giving due diligence regarding spending public funds.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So, the primary mission should not be impacted by doing so and it is optional. Therefore this legislature was correct in giving due diligence regarding spending public funds.

No, he was being a prick because there are far more wasteful things public funds get spent on. Lots of places provide free tampons and pads amd don't complain about the cost like a Republican will.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I may be a little off point here but......

In public bathrooms they shouldn't be offered.

Now I say that because some here think stand up urinals in public bathrooms should be done away with because they are sexist, only one sex uses them...... Well only one sex uses tampons.

When I was in Sweden there was more commonly unisex bathrooms than there are in Australia (and presumably America).
Access to free tampons or pads was common (not universal, but common) and didn't seem problematic at all.
Some places went further. One of my favourite bars there offered a small cabinet with tampons/pads, deodorant, bandaids, small tissue packs and a few other low values toiletery products.

It felt nice, friendly, and communcal...not exclutionary, imho.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

When I was in Sweden there was more commonly unisex bathrooms than there are in Australia (and presumably America).

They're more common in California than the other parts of America I've been to.

 

[Father Heathen]

Providing personal care products is not a required function of publicly funded schools.

Would that include hand soap and toilet paper?