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Teach me the science of creatonism without mentioning evolution.

ignition

Active Member
That's like trying to scientifically justify the virgin Birth of Christ; not going to happen because it is a miracle, it's not meant to conform with our scientific understanding, that's the whole point of a miracle.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
So you are in the "it`s not science" camp. Noted

Anyone that argues it should be taught at science class?

Remember, you must justify it`s sciencyfic nature without mentioning evolution.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
That's like trying to scientifically justify the virgin Birth of Christ; not going to happen because it is a miracle, it's not meant to conform with our scientific understanding, that's the whole point of a miracle.

So there is no scientific basis for creationism?
 

Alceste

Vagabond
That's a great challenge Me Myself. Shows exactly why creationism is not science and does not belong in the science classroom. The conflation of religion and science is a parasitic psychological phenomenon - it cannot survive without real science to prop it up. If you take any mention of evolution out of a creationist "science" class, it's just Sunday school.
 

Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
Creation allows for change, and change is, according to science, evolution, so the OP has given an impossible task and shows a lack of understanding of creation.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Man came to being after mutating from previous species with the help of our Creator which lead to our "creation" from the previous mutation.

That is creationism. I did not use the word evolve by the way, previous primates just "mutated" and did not "evolve".
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Man came to being after mutating from previous species with the help of our Creator which lead to our "creation" from the previous mutation.

That is creationism. I did not use the word evolve by the way, previous primates just "mutated" and did not "evolve".

1- You have not provided scientific evidence for your claims of creation,not a way tomake it falsifiable

2- it wasn`t a thiing of semantics :p . I dont personally believe evolution disproves God nor anything similar. I am just putting it clear that "creationism" has nothing to do with either science nor evolution. Though ironically, proponents of it being taught in science class really just want a lot of "evolution is not true because *insert ficticious or ignorant or deliberately wrong claim here* " taught in science class.
 

sonofdad

Member
Seems to me the point is to teach creationism in a positive way. Rather than trying to pick out holes in the theory of evolution, teach the science of creationism. If we imagine a world where the theory of evolution does not exist, what would a theory of creation look like?

Surely if creationism is actually science and if there is actually a creation theory that explains all the relevant data, then it can be taught without ever mentioning competing theories.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Man came to being after mutating from previous species with the help of our Creator which lead to our "creation" from the previous mutation.

That is creationism. I did not use the word evolve by the way, previous primates just "mutated" and did not "evolve".

So where is the science behind it?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
As the title says.

Teach me what would a creatonism class would consist of without mentioning evolution.
Been tried. Can't be done.
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Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
So you believein theistic evolution then? Talk clearly if you may.

No, but the definition of evolution has been dumbed down so much, as in the video, when we go to the bathroom that is evolution. Anything is evolution anymore. So how can a creationist talk about creation when everything is considered evolution?
 

Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
Seems to me the point is to teach creationism in a positive way. Rather than trying to pick out holes in the theory of evolution, teach the science of creationism. If we imagine a world where the theory of evolution does not exist, what would a theory of creation look like?

Surely if creationism is actually science and if there is actually a creation theory that explains all the relevant data, then it can be taught without ever mentioning competing theories.

Evolution exists because it is anything the evolutionist wants it to be. The theory of creation is already out there for people to see. I'm surprised how many people know nothing about it, but argue against it.
 

secret2

Member
Evolution exists because it is anything the evolutionist wants it to be. The theory of creation is already out there for people to see. I'm surprised how many people know nothing about it, but argue against it.

Wow, very precise and concise summary, except that two words in the sentence were reversed.
 

I.S.L.A.M617

Illuminatus
Evolution exists because it is anything the evolutionist wants it to be. The theory of creation is already out there for people to see. I'm surprised how many people know nothing about it, but argue against it.

Shows how little you understand about evolution...
 
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