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Here is the SDA timeline, note the 1260 prophecy is included, but they are not looking outside of Christianity to find fulfillment, they have not Considered Islam at all.
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Regards Tony
There is nothing here that has anything to do with a decree to rebuild Jerusalem. So, if this is the only chapter we read, what would you guess the starting point to start counting the years would be? I'd have to say that it must be whenever someone put a stop to the daily sacrifice. And there was someone who did that, Antiochus Epiphanes. And why is that important? Because Daniel is from the Jewish Bible. How do these prophecies fit Judaism? Was there a fulfillment of this prophecy already?Now the important part...
9 Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. 10 It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them. 11 It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down. 12 Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground.
Whoever this was, took away the daily sacrifice and threw down the sanctuary.
13 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?”
14 He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”
So, someone takes away the daily sacrifice and causes desolation, but after 2300 evenings and mornings the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.
When did the sanctuary get thrown down and by whom? From the year that happened, then start counting the 2300 days, years or whatever you want.
Here we do have the mention of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. And from that time, 457BC, to the Anointed One is the seven 'sevens,' and the sixty-two 'sevens' but then the Anointed One is put to death.Daniel 9:25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ ...26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death... The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
There is nothing about starting to count the 2300 mornings and evenings from the decree in 457BC. But then, In the middle of a seven, whoever this ruler is does put a stop to the sacrifice. When is this middle of a seven? Miller has it after 31AD. Why not start counting the 2300 morning and evenings at that point?
A decree to rebuild Jerusalem has nothing to do with the time a stop to the daily sacrifice and an abomination gets set up. One is a good thing. The Jews were able to go back and rebuild their city. The other would be a time when they had a Temple and were using it to perform their rituals, and somebody put a stop to it.