Curious George
Veteran Member
Yes. Because you are focusing on whether or not there is a constitutional prohibition on the establishment of a language. That doesn't matter. Even if there were, or at least one that prevented any other language beyond English from being established, the phrase E pluribus unum used on coins would still not establish any such language. The relevant part here is that use of a historical phrase on coins does not establish religion.You brought up language.
I pointed out its irrelevance.
And I'm the one missing the point?
And obviously a teacher saying "bless you" when a child sneezes is trying to indoctrinate that child.What appears to be merely ceremonial to you, I see as
the spearhead of attempts to theocratize government.
I fail to see how using historical symbols that also have religious meaning is an attempt to theocratize the government when no intent, entanglement, or effect can be shown beyond the simple use of these symbols.
And in the case of the conspicuous display in school requirement, I agree that it has run afoul. But that is not because the school is displaying the motto "In God We Trust" but rather because of the intent, I assume is behind the display.And yet, based upon original intent & upon the Constitution, the USSC has ruled
against some invocations in public school. I recall when teacher led Xian prayer
& Bible stories were the norm in school. That has ended.....mostly.
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You & I would just set the limits differently.
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Yes. The question is whose reasoning is consistent with the intent of the 1st amendment.
Perhaps. Yet the mention of a deity is just as historic. If it were me choosing there is no way I would choose "In God We Trust" but I recognize that is based on my opinion.2 phrases...take your pick.
Each is more inclusive & more useful.
Does the dollar bill in your wallet or the coin in your purse somehow identify you?As I said, you & I would set the limits differently.
I'm less comfortable with compelled religious speech, de minimis though it be.