Terror attacks in Paris.

[MARCELLO]

Sure, blame it all on somebody else, as usual. Anything but admit that Islamic fundamentalism is the problem, and has always been the problem. Militant monotheism has been a destructive force for 2000 years.

By the way, how many Syrian refugees has Saudi Arabia taken in?

I am neither Syrian nor Saudi,why am I involved within this?
Don't worry chap, there is very very little chance that you will be killed under a muslim attack. Why you worry? I am a tastier target for them,easy to reach . I don't think my securities weighing 50 kg will protect me from anything or my addicted (usually drunk,too) soldiers standing at the door will do anything .

 

[MARCELLO]

Dutch Antilles ,yes this is going to be the place I will leave in peace. It is sunny,no poverty,no terror.

 

[MARCELLO]

All the sects/schools we have been fighting have been around for quite a while. Western intervention just helps rally and unite new generations of jihadis. It doesn't create the fundamentalism - that was already there in the 7th century.

Yes you might be right I don't know. Maybe I am very afraid of being kidnapped or beheaded here so I try to visualize the nice things about them. You cannot know how everything changed after Paris bombings here. There is a ban on every international thing nowadays here and it really makes me unhappy and worried.

I have recently received a memo advising what to do in case I am kidnapped ( see,my job is related fully with money,what a nice target I am,thanks God). They say pistols are not enough, place a sharp knife in your socks.

 

[Sees]

Yes you might be right I don't know. Maybe I am very afraid of being kidnapped or beheaded here so I try to visualize the nice things about them. You cannot know how everything changed after Paris bombings here. There is a ban on every international thing nowadays here and it really makes me unhappy and worried.

I have recently received a memo advising what to do in case I am kidnapped ( see,my job is related fully with money,what a nice target I am,thanks God). They say pistols are not enough, place a sharp knife in your socks.

We just recently caught someone here that lived less than a km from my home - Akron, OH in the USA...can just hope the folks where you live aren't sympathetic to the cause. It isn't terribly hard for them to recruit new, young members.

 

[MARCELLO]

We just recently caught someone here that lived less than a km from my home - Akron, OH in the USA...can just hope the folks where you live aren't sympathetic to the cause. It isn't terribly hard for them to recruit new, young members.

Thank you

 

[SkepticThinker]

Fake passports are very easy to spot. Also, nowadays most passports have electronic chips that would be impossible to imitate. Consequently, getting a tourist visa to the USA or Europe is extremely difficult. On the contrary, arriving to Greece claiming to be a Syrian refugee is extremely easy, at least for a terrorist. If most refugees are not terrorists, then why almost 75% of the refugees are men between the ages of 20 and 50? If a country is at war, men between the ages of 20 and 50 should be the ones defending it. Have all these men left their mothers and sisters behind? Why are not the women fleeing these countries? Also, Syria may be at war, but Turkey is not. Most of these "refugees" come from Turkey, a country in which they are not being persecuted. So, why should they be considered refugees and not simply economic migrants?

Almost 75% of the refugees are NOT men between the ages of 20 and 50. In actuality, the majority of them are women and children.Women and children ARE fleeing Syria, in droves.

It doesn't appear that you read the last links I provided for you, but here are some more, so we can clear up the facts here:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/
http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/police-b...ed-passports-to-stigmatize-refugees-1.2662167
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ed-so-far-all-have-eu-passports-a6738821.html

 

[Lyndon]

Don't confuse him with the facts, Skeptic, it will never work!!

 

[Flankerl]

Almost 75% of the refugees are NOT men between the ages of 20 and 50. In actuality, the majority of them are women and children.Women and children ARE fleeing Syria, in droves.

But they are.
https://www.bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anla...lle-zahlen-zu-asyl.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

And before you question the source: Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge (de) or Federal Office for Migration and Refugees, an agency of the Federal Ministry of the Interior in Germany


Page 7/11
Men
"prozentualer Anteil männlicher Antragsteller innerhalb der Altersgruppen"
69,1%

Women
"prozentualer Anteil weiblicher Antragsteller innerhalb der Altersgruppen"
30,9%


Men from 16 to 50 years
"Aufteilung der männlichen Antragsteller nach Altersgruppen"
76,2%

Women from 16 to 50 years
"Aufteilung der weiblichen Antragsteller nach Altersgruppen"
56,6%

 

[SkepticThinker]

Don't confuse him with the facts, Skeptic, it will never work!!

It's a curse I have - I NEED facts.

 

[SkepticThinker]

But they are.
https://www.bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anla...lle-zahlen-zu-asyl.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

And before you question the source: Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge (de) or Federal Office for Migration and Refugees, an agency of the Federal Ministry of the Interior in Germany


Page 7/11
Men
"prozentualer Anteil männlicher Antragsteller innerhalb der Altersgruppen"
69,1%

Women
"prozentualer Anteil weiblicher Antragsteller innerhalb der Altersgruppen"
30,9%


Men from 16 to 50 years
"Aufteilung der männlichen Antragsteller nach Altersgruppen"
76,2%

Women from 16 to 50 years
"Aufteilung der weiblichen Antragsteller nach Altersgruppen"
56,6%

English please.




http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/


"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees — which refers refugees for resettlement in other countries — says there are more than 4 million registered Syrian refugees. Its figures on the demographic makeup of refugees is based on available data on the 2.1 million who were registered by the UNHCR in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon. (Another 1.9 million Syrian refugees were registered by the Government of Turkey, and more than 24,000 were registered in North Africa.)

UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women. Females age 18 to 59 make up 23.9 percent of the refugees, while males in that age group make up 21.8 percent.

Even younger males — age 12 to 17 — represent 6.5 percent of refugees, while females that age are 6.1 percent. The majority of refugees — 51.1 percent — are under age 17, including 38.5 percent who are younger than 12 years old. These numbers were as of Sept. 6."

 

[goofball]

Definition of terrorist - someone who uses violent action, or threats of violent action, for political purposes.

We should be worried about our own terrorists - the governments of the US,UK,France and Israel.

Terrorist outfits which oppose the West are following a script, and are well paid mercanaries. It really boils down to which brand of terrorism is acceptable to the individual. I support none, and I am ex military.

Billions spent on spying on us and still they fail ! ISIS had Twitter accounts !

 

[metis]

How can you vet them if they don't even have a passport? Are you joking? How many Cuban refugees have engaged in terrorism? Because just this week a Syrian "refugee" killed a few dozen people.

Let me suggest that you actually listen to those who are familiar with the system and how it works. Also, if we stop helping these refugees, this will be used as a great recruiting tool against us, plus it diminishes the values we have long held dear, and if we only react out of fear, ISIS wins.


Added: You might check this out fyi: http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456395388/paris-attacks-ignite-debate-over-u-s-refugee-policy

 

[Flankerl]

English please.

Really cute. Its an official monthly paper.

Your link is about all Syrian refugees. Well those are highly unimportant.
Those of importance are those who end up here.
And the pdf of the BAMF is exactly about those.

You should manage to navigate to page 7, translate yourself those rather short sentences and go from there.

 

[metis]

We don't need to stereotype Muslims. They are already doing it to themselves.

Wrong. Stereotyping is stereotyping, and that's all that you're doing with the above. I live in an area whereas I've had many Muslims as students, and what I read above simply is pathetic stereotyping of an entire people.

 

[YmirGF]

Really cute. Its an official monthly paper.

Your link is about all Syrian refugees. Well those are highly unimportant.
Those of importance are those who end up here.
And the pdf of the BAMF is exactly about those.

You should manage to navigate to page 7, translate yourself those rather short sentences and go from there.

My FireFox plugin, FoxLingo, translated it well in about 1/2 a second...

 

[SkepticThinker]

Really cute. Its an official monthly paper.

Your link is about all Syrian refugees. Well those are highly unimportant.
Those of importance are those who end up here.
And the pdf of the BAMF is exactly about those.

You should manage to navigate to page 7, translate yourself those rather short sentences and go from there.

Syrian refugees are what we are talking about.

Sorry, I don't have time to translate a bunch of stuff.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Let me suggest that you actually listen to those who are familiar with the system and how it works. Also, if we stop helping these refugees, this will be used as a great recruiting tool against us, plus it diminishes the values we have long held dear, and if we only react out of fear, ISIS wins.


Added: You might check this out fyi: http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456395388/paris-attacks-ignite-debate-over-u-s-refugee-policy

This ^^^

 

[Flankerl]

Syrian refugees are what we are talking about.

Nope the person you quoted spoke about Syrian Refugees in Europe.

Here have a hint "Most of these "refugees" come from Turkey" is what he wrote.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Nope the person you quoted spoke about Syrian Refugees in Europe.

Here have a hint "Most of these "refugees" come from Turkey" is what he wrote.

Is the assertion that the refugees are mostly Turkish? Or that they are Syrian but they are currently residing in Turkey?

 

[Flankerl]

That they are Syrian and living in Turkey. Namely Turkish refugee camps.