"Texas State Rep. Files Bill to Let Teachers Post Ten Commandments in Classrooms"

[Revoltingest]

The Books Of Bokonon begin with an admonition far superior to the 10 Commandments....

"Don't be a fool! Close this book at once! It is nothing but foma!
All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies.
Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy."

 

[Revoltingest]

ABSOLUTELY! It makes one nervous about going to school... fear creeps in when you see the Ten Commandments, it causes sleep depravation and affects your reality and ability to listen to a teacher.

Fear?
Of perfunctory relics?
Nah.
They just make my eyes roll.

Fear in Christian mythology seems a very strange thing. To fear the very god
they worship makes sense only if it's a construct to keep power over the many
in the hands of the few. I no more fear God than Voldemort or Hannibal Lecter.

This, of course, is much better:

Indiana teen denied bail as funeral arranged for pregnant cheerleader he is accused of brutally killing

Now THAT makes it easier to study.

Hmmmm... Thou Shalt Not Murder... No... we should have that meaningless statement in front of children, it will upset them.

Makes one wonder, how did we ever live for the 200 years of US existence?

Do you think that having a wall mounted rule against murder would prevent it?
Many contemplating murder haven't been constrained by the commandment.
Moreover, some are even motivated by the Bible to ignore it, eg, the KKK.

 

[Kenny]

Fear?


Do you think that having a wall mounted rule against murder would prevent it?
Many contemplating murder haven't been constrained by the commandment.

So, since it is so irrelevant and has no ability to change a person, are you now saying "let it happen"?

 

[Valjean]

ABSOLUTELY! It makes one nervous about going to school... fear creeps in when you see the Ten Commandments, it causes sleep depravation and affects your reality and ability to listen to a teacher.

This, of course, is much better:

Indiana teen denied bail as funeral arranged for pregnant cheerleader he is accused of brutally killing

Now THAT makes it easier to study.

Hmmmm... Thou Shalt Not Murder... No... we should have that meaningless statement in front of children, it will upset them.

Makes one wonder, how did we ever live for the 200 years of US existence?

I don't see much evidence that slogans or religious studies make much of a dent in crime rates. Criminals have a tendency to be impulsive and not think things through.

 

[Revoltingest]

So, since it is so irrelevant and has no ability to change a person, are you now saying "let it happen"?

There's a general consensus among Americastanian Christians,
Muslims, HIndus, Pastafarians, atheists, etc that murder is a crime.
And we all believe this without needing the 10 Commandments.

 

[Kenny]

There's a general consensus among Americastanian Christians,
Muslims, HIndus, Pastafarians, atheists, etc that murder is a crime.
And we all believe this without needing the 10 Commandments.

So, since we all believe that excessive speed on the roads is not safe, we don't need to post speed limits? Or because I believe that 35 mph counters my personal belief system, I should be upset that someone else posted it?

 

[Woberts]

I hope they enjoy lawsuits.

 

[Revoltingest]

So, since we all believe that excessive speed on the roads is not safe, we don't need to post speed limits? Or because I believe that 35 mph counters my personal belief system, I should be upset that someone else posted it?

Speed limit signs are necessary because the limit varies from stretch to stretch of road.
If you think society would be benefit from numerous signs that murder is wrong, the
invariance notwithstanding, that's fine with me. But this is independent of posting
Christianity's 10 Commandments, some of which are silly & irrelevant to the rest of us.

 

[Revoltingest]

I hope they enjoy lawsuits.

They'll no doubt feel virtuous & righteous when fighting the good
fight (ie, establishing Christianity as the state's official religion).

 

[Woberts]

They'll no doubt feel virtuous & righteous when fighting the good
fight (ie, establishing Christianity as the state's official religion).

It's a real catch-22 for us heathens, eh? If we don't do anything about it, the problem persists. If we do, then the collective Christian ego will inflate even more.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's a real catch-22 for us heathens, eh? If we don't do anything about it, the problem persists. If we do, then the collective Christian ego will inflate even more.

It'll be an eternal struggle between those who want their religion
to reign over all, & those who prefer secular government.

Btw, that's not what "catch 22" means.
Ref...
Catch-22 (logic) - Wikipedia

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Which "ten commandments?" Exodus? Deuteronomy? One of the English synopses or the original Hebrew wordings?

I would be surprised if many people could recall any version of it accurately.
that would be doubly true in the UK. where some my read it, but no one seems to learn it these days.

 

[metis]

A Texas Republican has already filed a bill that would allow public school teachers to post the Ten Commandments in their classrooms.

Which is called "pandering" since it is clearly unconstitutional and I would have to assume (I hope) that he at the least knows this.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would be surprised if many people could recall any version of it accurately.
that would be doubly true in the UK. where some my read it, but no one seems to learn it these days.

Would it even matter?
They'd be learning someone else's translation of a translation of a ancient language.
Such a thing couldn't be relied upon to have the same meaning as originally intended.

 

[shmogie]

A Texas Republican has already filed a bill that would allow public school teachers to post the Ten Commandments in their classrooms.

State Rep. Dan Flynn says in HB 307 that “The board of trustees of an independent school district may not prohibit the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments in a prominent location in a district classroom.”

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“I think it’s a good idea,” said Flynn. “If a teacher wants to put it in her classroom, she should be able to do it just as if she wanted to put up Halloween, Thanksgiving or any other decorations.

“I think it’s a good list of disciplines that young people would find very meaningful to them.”​

According to the bill, if two thirds of the State House votes in favor of it, it would go into effect immediately; if not, then it would go into effect for the 2019-2020 school year.
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So, who here is rootin' for the bill?

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Why not ? If they are good enough for the supreme court, they are good enough for the class room

 

[shmogie]

Which is called "pandering" since it is clearly unconstitutional and I would have to assume (I hope) that he at the least knows this.

Why is it clearly unconstitutional ? Tell me how it violates the first amendment.

 

[Curious George]

The Supreme Court has many figures... not all Christian and Jewish

I am not talking about the Supreme Court.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Could a teacher write " you should not kill other people or steal their property" on the classroom wall, would that be a problem? After all we have laws against murder and stealing. But if she writes " thou shalt not kil" and "thou shalt not steal" it is a problem? What is wrong with giving students rules to live by? Only those who are against religion in any form are against this. But the same rules apply to them. Even atheists are not allowed to steal and murder.

 

[metis]

Why is it clearly unconstitutional ? Tell me how it violates the first amendment.

Through the SCOTUS decisions on this as public schools are legally considered an extension of government. Imagine, for example, if by law each morning in Texas the Four Noble Truths and Eightfold Path had to be put on the wall in each classroom in the state. What do you think the reaction would be then?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why not ? If they are good enough for the supreme court, they are good enough for the class room

But the Ten Commandments are not on the Supreme Court Building. What one sees is a frieze that includes Moses and other mythical law makers. He is carrying stone tables that would appear to be the Ten Commandments, but those are not the Ten Commandments shown in any Christian sculpture.