That Whole Homosexual--Sin Thing

[We Never Know]

You really need to learn what an argument from ignorance is. I am not the one living in a box.

Yeah I've learned all about you in the last year. Everyone is wrong, everyone is in error, everyone is uneducated, everyone doesn't know science, everyone is what ever you choose to label them but it's never you.
And again, that's your personal choices shinning through. Have a good morning.

 

[We Never Know]

When you run away from simple questions and rant and rave you demonstrate that you are angry. And no, you are the one using personal feelings here. I have asked you a simple question several times and you ran away from it. No more questions from you until you answer my question.

False claims of BS. Don't whine and make false accusations because your were called out. Good night.

 

[We Never Know]

When you run away from simple questions and rant and rave you demonstrate that you are angry. And no, you are the one using personal feelings here. I have asked you a simple question several times and you ran away from it. No more questions from you until you answer my question.

By the way, over half of my posts you didn't even address. You just threw in your own spin in and declared pigeon chess victory. Sad sad

 

[InChrist]

Do you think Indigenous tribes have the same god as you? Or like other humans they made up a god from fear and what they didn't understand. They more than likely have more than one god.
I would think their gods differ much from your creator god. What do you think?

I think people everywhere throughout history, including indigenous tribes, have had all kinds of different ideas or beliefs about God/gods. Like I said previously each person will be judged by what they do know and understand. The Creator knows the mind and motives of each one....

“I the Lord search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward each person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve.” Jer. 17:10

If we had forgotten the name of our God
or spread out our hands to a foreign god,
would not God have discovered it,
since he knows the secrets of the heart? Psalm 44:20-21

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah I've learned all about you in the last year. Everyone is wrong, everyone is in error, everyone is uneducated, everyone doesn't know science, everyone is what ever you choose to label them but it's never you.
And again, that's your personal choices shinning through. Have a good morning.

Now you know that is not true. Why make that claim?

 

[Subduction Zone]

False claims of BS. Don't whine and make false accusations because your were called out. Good night.

Oh my more tall tales. You ran away from a simple question. You did not call anyone out., You only demonstrated that you did not understand the terms that you were arguing again.

Once again, when has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

 

[Subduction Zone]

By the way, over half of my posts you didn't even address. You just threw in your own spin in and declared pigeon chess victory. Sad sad

Your posts have quite a bit of nonsense to them. I addressed a main point and you blew a gasket because you did not understand a term and then ran away from the question that showed you to be wrong.

 

[InChrist]

Here's something even more relevant.

Homophobia causes abortion and single parenthood.

Gay guys (I don't pretend to speak for females) who desperately want to be normal know that getting a girl pregnant will "prove" that they don't deserve the kind of derision and oppression that homophobes will dish out. So they do it.

I did it.

Thanks @BilliardsBall . People like you are why I got a girl pregnant when I was 20 and she was 19. Because I desperately wanted to be normal, instead of a hell bound f*gg*t.
Tom

That is a sad situation and difficult that you experienced desperate feelings, but I don't think it is legitimate to blame anyone but yourself for getting a girl pregnant.

 

[We Never Know]

Now you know that is not true. Why make that claim?

When you're dead, everyone knows your dead but you. It's the same when you're stupid.

Now I'm not calling you stupid, just telling you a joke. I'm off here, give it a break with your false claims of me running off and avoidance.

 

[We Never Know]

Your posts have quite a bit of nonsense to them. I addressed a main point and you blew a gasket because you did not understand a term and then ran away from the question that showed you to be wrong.

Your normal as I explained early. It was predicted

 

[We Never Know]

Oh my more tall tales. You ran away from a simple question. You did not call anyone out., You only demonstrated that you did not understand the terms that you were arguing again.

Once again, when has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

And again. Your normal as I explained early. It was predicted

 

[Subduction Zone]

When you're dead, everyone knows your dead but you. It's the same when you're stupid.

Now I'm not calling you stupid, just telling you a joke. I'm off here, give it a break with your false claims of me running off and avoidance.

You were the only one that made false claims, and then you ran away. I did not run away you could never answer the question when has there ever been reliable evidence for a God. It appears that you might understand what an argument from ignorance is after all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your normal as I explained early. It was predicted

I only posted the facts. Why did you run away from a simple question?

 

[Subduction Zone]

And again. Your normal as I explained early. It was predicted

Of course, since you continue to run away from a question that proves you to be wrong. That is why you won't answer it. You are in control here. If you answer the question that I posed to you my tactics will change.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

When does the foetus/embryo become a baby, do you think?

When it's born and draws breath. Law and tradition, both secular and religious, are very clear.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I only posted the facts. Why did you run away from a simple question?

You expected what? Intellectual honesty and good faith?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Do you realize that even the Bible is okay with abortions, providing that the mother cheated on her husband and it is the husband and not the wife that wants the abortion?

Yeah, they never seem to know THAT verse. Stand by for hilarious ad hoc rationalisations. That's IF you can get them to acknowledge it even exists.

 

[Spartan]

The later Jews adopted belief in an immortal soul from the Greeks. It is not Biblical. Hell cannot exist without an immortal soul.The original Jews had no such belief.

What was "the House of the Lord" to David ? It was God's Tabernacle or Temple. Where was God's Temple as the center of Jewish worship?...it was here on earth. The Jews believed that God's Kingdom would be established on earth once the Messiah had completed his mission, with the Jews making up the priesthood and Jesus as High Priest. Even as Jesus was ascending to heaven, his apostles asked if he was going to establish his Kingdom then and there. (Act of the Apostles 1:6) They had no notion of going to heaven or hell.

Jesus would reveal more details about his Kingdom and those assigned to rule with him later when the holy spirit revealed more at Pentecost. Only then would they understand the spiritual nature of the Kingdom ruling from heaven over the earth.

These ones "sleep in the dust". The awakening is the resurrection. The judgment comes after they are raised....not as a result of past sins, but as a result of how they prove themselves after their resurrection.
At death one is acquitted of all past sins, (Romans 6:7; 23) having paid the highest penalty there is under God's law.

I am wondering if you are even reading these scriptures. Job had full expectations of an earthly physical bodily resurrection.

Job 14:13-15
"Oh that you would hide me in Sheol,
that you would conceal me until your wrath be past,
that you would appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14 If a man dies, shall he live again?
All the days of my service I would wait,
till my renewal should come.
15 You would call, and I would answer you;
you would long for the work of your hands." (ESV)

What was Job praying for? More suffering in hell? Or was "sheol" a place where he could hide from God's wrath and feel safe?
Job was praying to die, and then to be remembered in the resurrection to come.

This is again talking about a physical resurrection. "Their bodies will rise", not their souls or spirits.

Did he? Or rather did a disobedient King fall for the ruse of a spirit medium dredging up a demon impersonating the dead Samuel? If God's living prophets would not speak to Saul, and spirit mediums had been banished from the land by Saul himself under God's instruction, how is it even possible that this was Samuel?

You can't just pluck verse at random to prove your point. They must be understood in context and with a clear picture of what was believed at the time. Have you done any in depth Bible study? It doesn't mean glossing over doctrine with a few verses that seem to support a particular view....you must understand what the Bible as a whole teaches. It is one story from Genesis to Revelation.....it has one author and many secretaries.

What we lost in Eden will be given back to us through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and the rulership of his Kingdom. We are made for life on earth and the earth was made as a permanent home for us. That is what 46 years of Bible study has taught me. The simplicity is what makes it so beautiful, but the devil who sowed fake Christianity after the death of the apostles, has complicated so many things that confusion now reigns in the hearts of many, unable to find the needle in the haystack......but God promises to help us find the needle. (John 6:44; John 6:65)

Thanks for your views but I'll stick with what I previously presented.

 

[Skwim]

Wrong again. Those who have never heard of Jesus or those who were never presented the clear gospel will only be separated from God because they chose to ignore and reject the light and truth which was revealed to them, whether in nature or conscience. They will not be judged by what they don't know or understand...but by what they do know, yet refused.

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[Dan Mellis]

The Philippines have an openly gay community.
They are in show business and in other industries.
They are even running the government as career civil servants.
We have no discrimination whatsoever with regards to that

The Philippine Department of Heath has many gay doctors
now that is the appropriate approach so that people with HIV
would not be discriminated upon and would entice people to undergo testing

Dancing ASEC Eric Tayag

https://www.doh.gov.ph/Top-Health-Stories/Dancing-ASEC-Eric-Tayag

Dr. Tayag is openly gay and works as the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Health in the Philippines

The bottom line of things is we understand gay people
because the Philippines has close knit family ties
they could be our relatives, friends, co-workers or neighbors
However, we still regard their God given gender as such even if they
go to Thailand for gender reassignment
If they are born Male, their license, passport and other legal documents will be unchanged
Since no one is above the law, our Family Code says marriage is between a man and woman
being as such, no one is allowed to break it.

We still hold our conservative values
Which other countries do not have.

1. We do not allow gay marriages
2. We do not allow legalize narcotics
3. We do not allow divorce
4. We do not allow abortion
5. We do not allow pornography

Well it sounds like the Philippines is almost there in terms of equal rights and civil freedom! If only you allowed gay marriage, divorce, sex changes, abortions and porn...