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the Beast Within

stvdv

Veteran Member
See when I "look within" I See all animal.

What do you make of that?
That proves what I said

Hmmm... Do you think less of those who think of themselves as animals?
No.

1) Are you who others think you are?
2) Are you who you think you are?
3) Are you who you really are?

Note: Thinking is like believing, it's different from knowing or seeing
@stvdvRF
 
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SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
1) Are you who others think you are?
2) Are you who you think you are?
3) Are you who you really are?

Note: Thinking is like believing, it's different from knowing or seeing
@stvdvRF

1. Sometimes. Others offer insight into things about myself that I couldn't see for myself.
2. Sometimes. I've gained some good insight into who I am as a person, and I learn a little more about myself every day.
3. I'm working on it. I actively seek to be the best version of myself that I can be, and since others can see things about me from a third party perspective, and since I learn a little more about myself every day, I'm able to gauge myself better and actualize the kind of man I want to become.

My life is in flux, and that's the best way to be, IMO. The moment I know everything is the moment I lose ambition. The moment I lose ambition is the moment I stagnate. Stagnation is a terrible fate that everyone should fight.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Fruit flies are animal and i like the idea of being 35% daffodil.

DNA does not lie, ask any prison inmate on death row who was convicted on DNA evidence
I agree, DNA is amazing — it’s the structural basis of all life, as diverse as it is.
Still, all living things are more than the sum of their parts, considering the intangible factor such as their instinct & drive, not to mention symbiosis between many disparate organisms. Especially human beings, with our consciousness & conscience.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I agree, DNA is amazing — it’s the structural basis of all life, as diverse as it is.
Still, all living things are more than the sum of their parts, considering the intangible factor such as their instinct & drive, not to mention symbiosis between many disparate organisms. Especially human beings, with our consciousness & conscience.

Most animals also possess "consciousness" to some decree, it's not a uniquely human thing.
 

Wrangler

Ask And You Will Receive
I see no glory in being human

Then, I submit you do not grasp what glory is.

The Bible says man is the glory of God and the glory of man is woman. I say mans glory is best seen in our:
  1. Conquering attitude toward all aspects of like, not just militarily.
  2. Trader: We cooperate like none other. The lamb cannot buy the lion his dinner.
  3. Toolmaker: No other animal has flown to space, sat on the ocean bottom or any of the myriad of other inventions.
I ask my dogs all the time what is the best doggie recipe. They don’t even have a language to communicate, get me a beer!
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I accept evolution but a parallel path not that we evolved from the animal kingdom as we are the only unique species endowed with rational consciousness, the ability to reason and understand abstract realities.
 
Yup, "the prince of the power of the air: the spirit that NOW works IN the children of disobedience" - Eph 2:2.

No shortage of disobedient christians living after the flesh unto death - Rom 8:13
 

Wrangler

Ask And You Will Receive
I accept evolution

I no longer accept evolution drives speciation. Lots of new discoveries, such as 4D of information, suggest evolution is more minor, like breeds, adapting to environment.

What is missing from the fossil record is telling. Missing links between nearly every known family of life. Different kinds of butterflies but not too many transitional fossils of butterflies transforming into horses.

We, the naked ape, stopped relying on our hair to keep us warm some time ago. We began to control our micro environment by making tools, shelters, clothing and fire.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?


A human.


Which is an ape. And a mammal. And a tetrapod. And a vertebrate. And an eukaryote. An animal.

But I see a human.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Animal. And what of it? Why is this such a problem for you? Just admit it - you think yourself as "so much more." You realize what that is right? I wonder if you might be able to tell me?
70%water
the remaining 30% is mostly NOT human

as for the spirit within.....still in formation

release pending
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?
An animal. I do not deny the beast within.
We are remarkable animals, but animals non-the-less.
because.....God and heaven are not seeking....humanity
Then oh well. I want nothing to do with them. I am a human. This comes with tremendous downs and great highs. Staggering self-oppositions, and fiery passions. We are a curious species. and it's amazing to be one of us.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
there's a thread I started around here somewhere

Are You More than Ape?

something like that


Off course I'm more then just an ape.
Doesn't change the fact that I am also an ape. Just like all other homo sapiens.
We are also mammals and animals.

Why does this little factoid scare some theists so much?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Why does this little factoid scare some theists so much?
quite the opposite......

animals might cross over into the next life
I do have dreams of favored pets......in their new forms

but I strongly suspect.....the garden event was intended to INSURE.....
that Man would BE that creature curious .....even as death is the pending consequence

we are that creature
we are willing to risk dying......to know

and do we not say as much now and then?

are you not dying to know......God and heaven
 
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