The Bible declares that Jesus is God

[djhwoodwerks]

Hebrews points out he's imperfect before his death.

God requires a sacrifice without spot or blemish, but Jesus was imperfect?

 

[Brickjectivity]

God requires a sacrifice without spot or blemish, but Jesus was imperfect?

I recall that if we are merciful its better than any sacrifice. To be just is better than passing out sweet promises. Sacrifices can be inspected and without spot, but they still have fat that has to be burned. Without blemish is not perfect in a sacrifice but is merely somewhere to begin.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

I recall that if we are merciful its better than any sacrifice.

Hebrews 4:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Sounds perfect to me!

 

[Brickjectivity]

Hebrews 4:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Sounds perfect to me!

I recall that if we are merciful its better than any sacrifice. To be just is better than passing out sweet promises. Sacrifices can be inspected and without spot, but they still have fat that has to be burned. Without blemish is not perfect in a sacrifice but is merely somewhere to begin.

"(NIV) and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him" (Hebrews 5:9)

 

[kjw47]

It is essential to go to the text of Scripture which is relevant to the subject.
Revelation 7:13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” 14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

It is the propitiatory sacrifice of Christ on the cross ("blood of the Lamb") that is the means by which their sins are forgiven and their robes made white. Not self-effort or good works.

1 Cor. 9-11: 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
They were washed. Not they washed themselves. They were sanctified. they were justified. They were acted upon by Christ and the Spirit.

Gal. 5:17-19 The context of this passage is Paul's warning to the Galatian church against sinning, of which we all need to heed. To continue in unrepentant sin is a sign of not being born again. Christians do have besetting sins of which they honestly repent of and yet return to out of the weakness of the flesh. This war of the spirit against the flesh can last for a long time before it is finally won. The passage ends in this exhortation: 25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.



Eph.4:22-24 does not address regeneration (born-again). It is an exhortation to Godly living. Eph.1 deals with the cause and effect of regeneration and it is not in the will or actions of man.
Eph.1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love 5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight 9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.

All of grace. Not of our effort.



Sin, no matter small or large, even one sin disqualifies one from heaven because it is a breaking of the Law of the Holy God. Only the imputed righteousness of Christ to His elect brings about salvation. That includes the complete forgiveness of all their sins past, present and future.

The practice of willful sin is a sign on being a lost sinner, even on who professes and practices the Christian faith. Professes not possesses. That is what Heb.10:26-31 is about.
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

1. As unto the words wherein the sin and state of such men is expressed, “If we sin wilfully,” he puts himself among them, as is his manner in comminations: both to show that there is no respect of persons in this matter, but those who have equally sinned shall be equally punished; and to take off all appearance of severity towards them, seeing he speaks nothing of this nature but on such suppositions as wherein, if he himself were concerned, he pronounceth it against himself also. “We sinning,” or, “if we sin ἑκουσίως “wilfully,” say we: our former translations, “willingly;” which we have now avoided, lest we should give countenance unto a supposition that there is no recovery after any voluntary sin. “If we sin wilfully;” that is, obstinately, maliciously, and with despite; which is the nature of the sin itself, as is declared verse 29: but the word doth not require, nor will scarce bear any such sense. “Willingly,” is of choice, without surprisal, compulsion, or fear; and this is all that the word will bear.

The season and circumstance which state the sin intended is, “after we have received the knowledge of the truth.” There is no question but that by “the truth,” the apostle intends the doctrine of the gospel; and the “receiving” of it is, upon the conviction of its being truth, to take on us the outward profession of it. Only there is an emphasis in that word, τὴν ἐπίγνωσιν. This word is not used anywhere to express the mere conceptions or notions of the mind about truth, but such an acknowledgment of it as ariseth from some sense of its power and excellency. This, therefore, is the description of the persons concerning whom this sin is supposed: They were such as unto whom the gospel had been preached; who, upon conviction of its truth, and sense of its power, had taken upon them the public profession of it. And this is all that is required to the constitution of this state. And what is so required may be reduced to one of these two heads:

(1.) The solemn dedication of themselves unto Christ in and by their baptism.
(2.) Their solemn joining themselves unto the church, and continuance in the duties of its worship, Acts 2:41-42.
On this opening of the words, it is evident what sin it is that is intended, against which this heavy doom is denounced; and that on these two considerations:
(1.) That the head of the precedent exhortation is, that we should “hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering,” Hebrews 10:23; and the means of continuing in that profession, Hebrews 10:24-25. Wherefore the sin against this exhortation is, the relinquishment and renouncing of the profession of the faith, with all acts and duties thereunto belonging.
(2.) The state opposite unto this sin, that which is contrary unto it, is “receiving the knowledge of the truth;” which what is required thereunto we have now declared. Wherefore the sin here intended, is plainly a relinquishment and renunciation of the truth of the gospel and the promises thereof, with all duties thereunto belonging, after we have been convinced of its truth, and avowed its power and excellency. There is no more required but that this be done ἑκοσοίως, “willingly;” as,
(1.) Not upon a sudden surprisal and temptation, as Peter denied Christ;
(2.) Not on those compulsions and fears which may work a present dissimulation, without an internal rejection of the gospel;
(3.) Not through darkness, ignorance making an impression for a season on the minds and reasonings of men: which things, though exceedingly evil and dangerous, may befall them who yet contract not the guilt of this crime.
But it is required thereunto, that men who thus sin, do it,
(1.) By choice, and of their own accord, from the internal pravity of their own minds, and an evil heart of unbelief to depart from the living God.
(2.) That they do it by and with the preference of another way of religion, and a resting therein, before or above the gospel.
(3.) That whereas there were two things which were the foundation of the profession of the gospel;
[1.] The blood of the covenant, or the blood of the sacrifice of Christ, with the atonement made thereby; and
[2.] The dispensation of the Spirit of grace; these they did openly renounce, and declared that there was nothing of God in them, as we shall see on verse 29. Such were they who fell off from the gospel unto Judaism in’those days. Such are they whom the apostle here describeth, as is evident in the context. I will say no more unto the sin at present, because I must treat of it under its aggravations on verse 29.

John Owen on Hebrews

Fact--The hardest thing a mortal will accomplish in a satan ruled world is getting grace. Jesus said--FEW will find that road. Those who listen to Jesus will get grace-- none deserve it because all fall short of the glory of God, but Few have washed their robes white. Everything Jesus taught--he meant 100%----Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God--he didn't say--if you want to, one MUST live that way. Every utterance= OT-NT over and over, year after year, and one still learns new points--this process does not ever stop in this system--Few can be bothered.

 

[Rick B]

Fact--The hardest thing a mortal will accomplish in a satan ruled world is getting grace. Jesus said--FEW will find that road. Those who listen to Jesus will get grace-- none deserve it because all fall short of the glory of God, but Few have washed their robes white. Everything Jesus taught--he meant 100%----Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God--he didn't say--if you want to, one MUST live that way. Every utterance= OT-NT over and over, year after year, and one still learns new points--this process does not ever stop in this system--Few can be bothered.

@kjw47 Grace cannot be accomplished. Grace cannot be earned. Grace is the unmerited favor of God freely bestowed upon undeserving sinners.

Those who "get" (receive) grace will listen to Him. God is always prior to man's response. Just as faith and repentance are gifts from God. And regeneration is accomplished by God in the redemption of man apart from his doing. We are "born from above". Once regeneration is accomplished all other elements from salvation to glorification will be accomplished.

Also do you have a response to my previous post?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The hardest thing a mortal will accomplish in a satan ruled world

You are so deceived, it's SAD! Do you think satan is some powerful mighty God?

You don't even understand why satan is called "the god of this world" or "the ruler of this world", do you?

Let me explain it to you, satan has NO power, satan has NO authority on this earth, NONE.

Matthew 28:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Satan is called the god, or ruler of this world because people choose his ways over God's ways, that's it! People have turned from God and choose to obey the flesh (satan ruled world) instead of God. When people choose their flesh over God's way, satan is their god.

Satan is a created being, he isn't a god, he has no power except the power people give him. The only power he has is the lie, he gets people to live the way they want and deny God.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

@kjw47 Grace cannot be accomplished. Grace cannot be earned. Grace is the unmerited favor of God freely bestowed upon undeserving sinners.

Those who "get" (receive) grace will listen to Him. God is always prior to man's response. Just as faith and repentance are gifts from God. And regeneration is accomplished by God in the redemption of man apart from his doing. We are "born from above". Once regeneration is accomplished all other elements from salvation to glorification will be accomplished.

Also do you have a response to my previous post?

Amen, and amen!!!!!

 

[Rick B]

For those new or uninformed Christians as well as those who deny the deity of Christ, this may come as a surprise.

Scriptures Identifying Jesus as Yahweh Taken from James White in The Forgotten Trinity (Chapter 9, endnote 2)

Mtt. 1:21; Psa. 130:8; Isa. 35:4 [God will save His people]
Mtt. 3:12; Rev. 6:16; Psa. 2:12; 76:7 [Fear God]
Mtt. 5:18; Mk. 13:31 [God’s word is eternal; Jesus’ word is eternal]
Mtt. 25:31-46; Psa. 50:6; 59:11; 96:13 [God is Judge, Jesus is Judge]
Jn. 1:3; Isa. 44:24 [Yahweh alone created all things]
Jn. 1:7-9; Isa. 60:9 [God is light]
Jn. 7:37-38; Jer. 2:13 [Yahweh the fountain of living water]
Jn. 10:11; Psa. 23:1; 110:3 [The Good Shepherd]
Jn. 12:41; Isa. 6:1 [The vision of Isaiah—Yahweh’s glory]
Jn. 14:6; Psa. 31:5 [God is truth]
Jn. 14:14; 1 Cor. 1:2 [Prayer to Jesus]
Jn. 14:26; 16:27; Rom. 8:9; 1 Pet. 1:11; Neh. 9:20; 2 Sam 23:2-3 [Spirit of Yahweh/God/Christ]
Jn. 17:5; Isa. 48:11 [Will not give His glory to another]
Acts 1:8; Isa. 43:10 [Witness of Whom?]
Acts 4:24; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4 [Who is our Master?]
Rom. 10:13; Joel 2:32 [Call on the name of…]
Eph. 4:8-9; Psa. 68:18 [God leads the captives…]
Phil. 2:10-11; Isa. 45:23 [Every knee will bow…]
Col. 1:16; Eph. 5:25, 27; Rom. 11:36 [All things are to God…]
Col. 1:17; Acts 17:28 [We exist in God]
Col. 2:3; 1 Tim. 1:17 [Only wise God…treasure of wisdom]
2 Tim. 1:12; Jer. 17:5 [Trust in Yahweh—believe in Jesus]
Heb.1:3; 1 Tim. 6:15 [Jesus’ power—God is only sovereign]
Heb. 1:10; Psa. 102:25 [Jesus is Yahweh]
Heb. 13:8; Mal. 3:6 [God changes not]
Jms. 2:1; Zech. 2:5 [Lord of glory]
1 Pet. 2:3; Psa. 34:8 [Taste that Yahweh is good]
1 Pet. 3:15; Isa. 8:13 [Sanctify Yahweh]
Rev. 1:5-6; Exod. 34:14 [Glorify Jesus]
Rev. 1:13-16; Ezek. 43:2 [God’s voice is the voice of Jesus]
Rev. 2:23; 1 Kings 8:39 [Jesus searches the hearts]
Rev. 3:7; Revelation 15:4 [God alone is holy]

 

[kjw47]

@kjw47 Grace cannot be accomplished. Grace cannot be earned. Grace is the unmerited favor of God freely bestowed upon undeserving sinners.

Those who "get" (receive) grace will listen to Him. God is always prior to man's response. Just as faith and repentance are gifts from God. And regeneration is accomplished by God in the redemption of man apart from his doing. We are "born from above". Once regeneration is accomplished all other elements from salvation to glorification will be accomplished.

Also do you have a response to my previous post?

Yes grace is given free--to the FEW that Jesus mentioned. Those who--OBEY every utterance from God to the best of their abilities. That is FEW as Jesus taught.

 

[kjw47]

For those new or uninformed Christians as well as those who deny the deity of Christ, this may come as a surprise.

Scriptures Identifying Jesus as Yahweh Taken from James White in The Forgotten Trinity (Chapter 9, endnote 2)

Mtt. 1:21; Psa. 130:8; Isa. 35:4 [God will save His people]
Mtt. 3:12; Rev. 6:16; Psa. 2:12; 76:7 [Fear God]
Mtt. 5:18; Mk. 13:31 [God’s word is eternal; Jesus’ word is eternal]
Mtt. 25:31-46; Psa. 50:6; 59:11; 96:13 [God is Judge, Jesus is Judge]
Jn. 1:3; Isa. 44:24 [Yahweh alone created all things]
Jn. 1:7-9; Isa. 60:9 [God is light]
Jn. 7:37-38; Jer. 2:13 [Yahweh the fountain of living water]
Jn. 10:11; Psa. 23:1; 110:3 [The Good Shepherd]
Jn. 12:41; Isa. 6:1 [The vision of Isaiah—Yahweh’s glory]
Jn. 14:6; Psa. 31:5 [God is truth]
Jn. 14:14; 1 Cor. 1:2 [Prayer to Jesus]
Jn. 14:26; 16:27; Rom. 8:9; 1 Pet. 1:11; Neh. 9:20; 2 Sam 23:2-3 [Spirit of Yahweh/God/Christ]
Jn. 17:5; Isa. 48:11 [Will not give His glory to another]
Acts 1:8; Isa. 43:10 [Witness of Whom?]
Acts 4:24; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4 [Who is our Master?]
Rom. 10:13; Joel 2:32 [Call on the name of…]
Eph. 4:8-9; Psa. 68:18 [God leads the captives…]
Phil. 2:10-11; Isa. 45:23 [Every knee will bow…]
Col. 1:16; Eph. 5:25, 27; Rom. 11:36 [All things are to God…]
Col. 1:17; Acts 17:28 [We exist in God]
Col. 2:3; 1 Tim. 1:17 [Only wise God…treasure of wisdom]
2 Tim. 1:12; Jer. 17:5 [Trust in Yahweh—believe in Jesus]
Heb.1:3; 1 Tim. 6:15 [Jesus’ power—God is only sovereign]
Heb. 1:10; Psa. 102:25 [Jesus is Yahweh]
Heb. 13:8; Mal. 3:6 [God changes not]
Jms. 2:1; Zech. 2:5 [Lord of glory]
1 Pet. 2:3; Psa. 34:8 [Taste that Yahweh is good]
1 Pet. 3:15; Isa. 8:13 [Sanctify Yahweh]
Rev. 1:5-6; Exod. 34:14 [Glorify Jesus]
Rev. 1:13-16; Ezek. 43:2 [God’s voice is the voice of Jesus]
Rev. 2:23; 1 Kings 8:39 [Jesus searches the hearts]
Rev. 3:7; Revelation 15:4 [God alone is holy]

And the truth from Jesus= John 20:17, Rev 3:12--so trinity religions teach--God has a God.
Your translations are filled with error. All trinity translations were done by Catholicism translating, all originals were gone by the time anyone else translated. Catholicism is far removed from God as are all its branches.

 

[kjw47]

You are so deceived, it's SAD! Do you think satan is some powerful mighty God?

You don't even understand why satan is called "the god of this world" or "the ruler of this world", do you?

Let me explain it to you, satan has NO power, satan has NO authority on this earth, NONE.

Matthew 28:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Satan is called the god, or ruler of this world because people choose his ways over God's ways, that's it! People have turned from God and choose to obey the flesh (satan ruled world) instead of God. When people choose their flesh over God's way, satan is their god.

Satan is a created being, he isn't a god, he has no power except the power people give him. The only power he has is the lie, he gets people to live the way they want and deny God.

1John 5:19-- The whole world lies in the POWER of the wicked one( satan)--proving you are in error that he has no power, He rules 99% throughout mankinds history--could not be done without power.
Jesus said satan is the ruler of this world. He could not do it without power. He controlled the weather killing Jobs children--that takes POWER. Made sores pop up on Jobs body--with POWER.

 

[metis]

Your translations are filled with error. All trinity translations were done by Catholicism translating, all originals were gone by the time anyone else translated.

This isn't even remotely logical because how could one possibly know what was in the originals since we don't have a single one.

Catholicism is far removed from God as are all its branches.

That's a pathetically bigoted statement as you simply don't realize after being repeatedly warned that, in this arena of theology, absolutes simply are not there. So, one could make the same claim about the JW's in that they are "far removed from God" and there simply is no way you could possibly prove them wrong.

BTW, some have made that claim about JW's, especially since they are a rather up-start denomination that is willing to condemn other denominations but can't even see the "plank" in their own eye.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

1John 5:19-- The whole world lies in the POWER of the wicked one( satan)--proving you are in error that he has no power, He rules 99% throughout mankinds history--could not be done without power.
Jesus said satan is the ruler of this world. He could not do it without power. He controlled the weather killing Jobs children--that takes POWER. Made sores pop up on Jobs body--with POWER.

I choose to believe Jesus!

Matthew 28:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Satan doesn't have ANY power unless we or God allows it. You notice he had to get permission from God to attack Job! He couldn't do it on his own.

Who has more power, Jesus or satan?

Galatians 5:16 (ESV Strong's) 16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

Are we at the mercy of satan? Can satan make you do anything you don't want to do? HE HAS NO POWER! He can't do anything to you that God or you don't allow. What kind of power is that?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Jesus said satan is the ruler of this world. He could not do it without power. He controlled the weather killing Jobs children--that takes POWER. Made sores pop up on Jobs body--with POWER.

You should re-read the curse of the law, and the story of Job. Job lived faithless and in fear.

Job 1:5 (ESV Strong's) And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did continually.

Which is why God could say,

Job 1:12 (ESV Strong's) 12 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.

 

[Rick B]

And the truth from Jesus= John 20:17, Rev 3:12--so trinity religions teach--God has a God.
Your translations are filled with error. All trinity translations were done by Catholicism translating, all originals were gone by the time anyone else translated. Catholicism is far removed from God as are all its branches.

You have expressed your opinion but go to the texts I presented and refute them if you want to present a logical argument in this debate.

 

[Rick B]

Yes grace is given free--to the FEW that Jesus mentioned. Those who--OBEY every utterance from God to the best of their abilities. That is FEW as Jesus taught.

You seem to be missing the explicit statements of Scripture which directly contradict your assertion. You are presenting a semi-pelagian theology. Ironically much like Roman Catholicism stating that we are saved by grace plus works.

Romans 3:10 as it is written, “There is none righteous, not even one; 11 There is none who understands,There is none who seeks for God;12 All have turned aside, together they have become useless;There is none who does good,There is not even one.” 13 “Their throat is an open grave, With their tongues they keep deceiving,” “The poison of asps is under their lips”; 14 “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness”; 15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood, 16 Destruction and misery are in their paths, 17 And the path of peace they have not known.”18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” 19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. 21 But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; 25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; 26 for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. 28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.

31 Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Galatians 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. 17 But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! 18 For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. 19 For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. 21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

3:1 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
6 Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. 7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. 8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” 11 Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.” 12 However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “He who practices them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”— 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Galatians 5:4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

1John 5:19-- The whole world lies in the POWER of the wicked one( satan)--proving you are in error that he has no power,

1 John 5:19 (NKJV) 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.
1 John 5:19 (KJV) 19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
1 John 5:19 (ASV) 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one.
1 John 5:19 (HCSB Free) 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world is under the sway of the evil one.
1 John 5:19 (NIV) 19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
1 John 5:19 (RV) 19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one.

That means people chose darkness over the light, satan HAS NO POWER. If he had all the power you say he does, he would have power over you and every witness, right? He only has the power we give him. If we listen to his lies and give in, then he has power over us, if we,

James 4:7 (ESV Strong's) 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

What kind of mighty power is that, if we can resist him and he will FLEE? I'm sure you know the definition of flee, right?


Romans 8:7-8 (ESV Strong's) 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

[Redemptionsong]

The Bible declares that Jesus is God. True.

This is probably the single most important truth that I have learnt in my life. The whole of the written Word of God points to the living Word of God. As the Psalmist says, 'By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.' (Psalm 33:6)

One of the things that causes people confusion when pondering this issue is a failure to rightly divide the word of God.

1. Jesus under the law.
The conception of Jesus was miraculous, but he was born a human baby; body, soul and spirit. Jesus was born and lived under the law. Galatians 4:4, 'But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.' Jesus lived the first thirty years of his life under the law of God. He performed no miracles.

2. Jesus the Christ, Son of Man, Son of God.
The anointing of Jesus with the Holy Spirit was a turning point. Like king David, Jesus was anointed king before being crowned. During his ministry, Jesus lived as a human, yet he walked by the spirit of God. As both God and Man, the Son of God, Jesus prayed to his Father in heaven. We have both the human and divine perspectives.
Hebrews 2:9 adds a further point to consider, 'But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.'

3. Jesus as Lord and God
Crucifixion brings an end to the human body. The new resurrected body, or spiritual temple, is incorruptible and eternal. Only after resurrection, and ascension to his heavenly throne, is Christ's position of glory and honour fully understood. At this point Jesus Christ is rightfully worshipped as Lord. He is, after all, the shepherd of Psalm 23.

 

[kjw47]

This isn't even remotely logical because how could one possibly know what was in the originals since we don't have a single one.

That's a pathetically bigoted statement as you simply don't realize after being repeatedly warned that, in this arena of theology, absolutes simply are not there. So, one could make the same claim about the JW's in that they are "far removed from God" and there simply is no way you could possibly prove them wrong.

BTW, some have made that claim about JW's, especially since they are a rather up-start denomination that is willing to condemn other denominations but can't even see the "plank" in their own eye.

Not only did the see the plank in their own eye, in every other religions eyes as well. Were the ONLY ones to make correction to errors that were taught for 1750 years and the ones they made themselves. Otherwise this could never be a truth( Dan 12:4) but it is--all accomplished by CORRECTION.