The Bible declares that Jesus is God

[Rick B]

Facts prove--No trinity God exists

100% FACT OF Israelite history-- From Moses on up until this very day--In every synagogue and temple ever constructed to the true living God--they taught, served, and worshipped-- a single being God named-YHVH(Jehovah)--- The Israelites served the only true God= Fact.
This is the God taught to Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter and Jesus while he attended his first 30 years on earth--Not one of them, ever refuted that God. And does one actually think that Jesus would attend a place of worship to a false god= Never.
The Israelite--RELIGION-- was cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)--They outright refuse to do verse 39 for over 1900 years. God did not change. The religion that came out of Rome years later changed God. And translated false council teachings into trinity translations.

Are you unwilling to respond to my question and my syllogism?

 

[kjw47]

Witnesses fail this one terribly! Witnesses are taught to hate their enemies, to loath them!

Your post is false. We loath sin as God does. Not the sinner. Millions upon millions of hours yearly in field service worldwide is proof of love not loathing. Or don't you think, A JW being human wouldn't rather take their spare time to go to the beach, or golfing, or fishing, Etc,Etc-- instead do this--Matt 16:24, Matt 6:33-- (Jesus started the work( Luke 10-- sent out the 70 by two( to do what)-- Acts 20:20-- house to house with the good news of Gods kingdom, it doesn't stop until the end. The most important work ever a human can accomplish.

 

[Rick B]

Facts prove--No trinity God exists

100% FACT OF Israelite history-- From Moses on up until this very day--In every synagogue and temple ever constructed to the true living God--they taught, served, and worshipped-- a single being God named-YHVH(Jehovah)--- The Israelites served the only true God= Fact.
This is the God taught to Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter and Jesus while he attended his first 30 years on earth--Not one of them, ever refuted that God. And does one actually think that Jesus would attend a place of worship to a false god= Never.
The Israelite--RELIGION-- was cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)--They outright refuse to do verse 39 for over 1900 years. God did not change. The religion that came out of Rome years later changed God. And translated false council teachings into trinity translations.

Are you unwilling to respond to my question: Is it because Jesus is called the "Son" of God that He therefore is not God?
Are you unwilling to respond John 1:1c "And the Word was God?

 

[kjw47]

Crickets!

Capitol G God does not belong in the last line of John 1:1-- small g god belongs. Jesus did the will of his Father while on Earth( John 5:30) he was--mortal( Heb 2:7-9) as we are( he just didn't sin)-- Gods power went through him( Acts 2:22)
God gave to him, shares with him, teaches him all things--he is not God. He is Gods son, he has a mortal mother.

 

[kjw47]

Are you unwilling to respond to my question and my syllogism?

Yes that is apart of it--Jesus being the son.

 

[Rick B]

Yes that is apart of it--Jesus being the son.

OK, Thanks. But if Jesus is not God because He is the "Son" of God then He is not man because He is the Son of man.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

No true brother in Christ would stand against another brother in Christ unless the darkness rules their lives.

Unless YOU are one of the elite few, the anointed, YOUR not a "true brother of Christ", so what does it matter?

We live under a new covenant

YOU don't live under the New Covenant, only the chosen elite few, the anointed, are under the New Covenant. Why are you saying all this falsehood, like no one knows?

One must obey God as ruler rather than men.

But YOU obey 7 men, not God. That's kind of ironic for you to say!

Psalms 146:3-4 (ESV Strong's) 3 Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation. 4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth;
on that very day his plans perish.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Noahs day--8 humans served God--99% mislead by satans power.
Israelite kings apostocised over and over in the ot= 99% mislead by satans power.
Jesus, apostles, followers-murdered= 99% mislead by satans power.
Today= 99% mislead by satans power.

It wasn't satans POWER, it was the CHOICE of every person to deny God!

And you question Jesus who said--Satan is the ruler of this world.

Again, your ignorance shows! Satan is called the ruler of this world because PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THEIR FLESH! If satan was soooo powerful, and a real ruler, how come he doesn't have everyone on earth following him? BECAUSE JESUS IS GREATER!

1 John 4:4 (ESV Strong's) 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

You can't get that hogwash over on me, the only power satan has is what we allow him to have, no more!

James 4:7 (ESV Strong's) 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Ooooh scary mighty power!!!!

 

[Rick B]

Capitol G God does not belong in the last line of John 1:1-- small g god belongs. Jesus did the will of his Father while on Earth( John 5:30) he was--mortal( Heb 2:7-9) as we are( he just didn't sin)-- Gods power went through him( Acts 2:22)
God gave to him, shares with him, teaches him all things--he is not God. He is Gods son, he has a mortal mother.

OK, Thanks. But if Jesus is not God because He is the "Son" of God then He is not man because He is the Son of man.

To support your theology the first edition (1950) of the NWT changed the traditional wording of John 1:1c from the Word was God to the word was a god. Can you defend the "correction" against the long-held Protestant translation?

You may say Jesus is a greater man but that still makes Him a man. With that you may say Jesus is a lesser god but that still makes Him a god. Much like the Greek and Roman pantheon, which had greater and lesser gods was a polytheistic system, so the JW system appears.

 

[Oeste]

Millions upon millions of hours yearly in field service worldwide is proof of love not loathing. Or don't you think, A JW being human wouldn't rather take their spare time to go to the beach, or golfing, or fishing, Etc,Etc--

This is works based theology in action.

 

[kjw47]

OK, Thanks. But if Jesus is not God because He is the "Son" of God then He is not man because He is the Son of man.

The bible is clear---God always was, and always will be--0 parents. Jesus has a mortal mother.

 

[kjw47]

Unless YOU are one of the elite few, the anointed, YOUR not a "true brother of Christ", so what does it matter?



YOU don't live under the New Covenant, only the chosen elite few, the anointed, are under the New Covenant. Why are you saying all this falsehood, like no one knows?



But YOU obey 7 men, not God. That's kind of ironic for you to say!

Psalms 146:3-4 (ESV Strong's) 3 Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation. 4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth;
on that very day his plans perish.

You are in total error.

Psalm was ot-- It was not speaking of a righteous one--as Luke 10:16 clearly teaches--If one rejects the real teachers of Jesus they are as well rejecting Jesus and God. So one better listen to them.

 

[kjw47]

It wasn't satans POWER, it was the CHOICE of every person to deny God!



Again, your ignorance shows! Satan is called the ruler of this world because PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THEIR FLESH! If satan was soooo powerful, and a real ruler, how come he doesn't have everyone on earth following him? BECAUSE JESUS IS GREATER!

1 John 4:4 (ESV Strong's) 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

You can't get that hogwash over on me, the only power satan has is what we allow him to have, no more!

James 4:7 (ESV Strong's) 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Ooooh scary mighty power!!!!

Few know little about satan and how he misleads 99%-- He and his teachers has them partake off his table of demons by transforming into an angel of light.-1Cor 10:21-- 2Cor 11:12-15)
Every encyclopedia clearly shows--the pagan additives straight off the table of demons added to Christmas and Easter.-- God showed what one does for him = 0 if they partake off of the table of demons. They will not listen to reality--they must fit in.

 

[kjw47]

To support your theology the first edition (1950) of the NWT changed the traditional wording of John 1:1c from the Word was God to the word was a god. Can you defend the "correction" against the long-held Protestant translation?

You may say Jesus is a greater man but that still makes Him a man. With that you may say Jesus is a lesser god but that still makes Him a god. Much like the Greek and Roman pantheon, which had greater and lesser gods was a polytheistic system, so the JW system appears.

Many were called either a god or godlike--it did not make them-GOD nor did it make them a false god either. Jesus is not God at all--God did it all through him.-John 5:30, Acts 2:22)-- How many x was the name Jesus mentioned the first 4000 years of the OT? = 0--Why if he is God? Because he wasn't Jesus prior to coming to this earth--He speaks at Prov 8--He is Gods master worker.

 

[Rick B]

Many were called either a god or godlike--it did not make them-GOD nor did it make them a false god either. Jesus is not God at all--God did it all through him.-John 5:30, Acts 2:22)-- How many x was the name Jesus mentioned the first 4000 years of the OT? = 0--Why if he is God? Because he wasn't Jesus prior to coming to this earth--He speaks at Prov 8--He is Gods master worker.

Can you address my post that you quoted?

 

[kjw47]

This is works based theology in action.

You must have missed these bible points---James taught--Faith without works is DEAD.--So by one doing works, it builds ones faith into a strong living faith that will not fold when the crap hits the fan. Without doing the works to build up ones faith, it will fold instantly as it is dead.
Revelation--we will be judged by our WORKS.
I have heard your argument by the ones who obviously lack in faith because they condemn, works. And try to say one does works to get saved--it is not true.

 

[kjw47]

Can you address my post that you quoted?

Light has a hard time entering darkness--can you read? Your twistings are not reality.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

No true brother in Christ would stand against another brother in Christ unless the darkness rules their lives.

Unless YOU are one of the elite few, the anointed, YOUR not a "true brother of Christ", so what does it matter?

You are in total error.

Psalm was ot-- It was not speaking of a righteous one--as Luke 10:16 clearly teaches--If one rejects the real teachers of Jesus they are as well rejecting Jesus and God. So one better listen to them.

Again, what does your last post have to do with the previous post that were made?

You were calling yourself a "brother in Christ", I said you are no brother in or of Christ if you are not one of the anointed, what does Psalm have to do with it?

Unless YOU are an anointed one, YOU are not a brother of Christ or in Christ. If YOU are not an anointed one YOU are not under the New Covenant, YOU might get by just being associated with the organization. YOU don't have the Spirit, YOU don't have Jesus, all YOU have is the organization, that's it! They supposedly have Jesus, they are His brothers. YOU are just a peasant hoping to EARN a spot in the kingdom!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Few know little about satan and how he misleads 99%

Yes, satan "misleads" but he has no power! Can satan "make" YOU do whatever he wants you to do? Do you have no choice when he tempts you, do you just have to obey his mighty power?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Few know little about satan and how he misleads 99%

James 4:7 (ESV Strong's) 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Where's his mighty power?