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The Big Bang Theory is dead.

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Of course it is 100%
King James Bible.

We were through this previousl ?!

In claiming the KJV is 100% Gods Word - You are claiming all the Bibles that came before the KJV are not 100% God's Word.

Do you understand and remember this fact which you agreed with at the time ?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
We were through this previousl ?!

In claiming the KJV is 100% Gods Word - You are claiming all the Bibles that came before the KJV are not 100% God's Word.

Do you understand and remember this fact which you agreed with at the time ?
Of course not.
Just bad logic on your part.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
If science only has evidence, and no proof, why treat any science theory as dogma, if it has only has circumstantial evidence?

No science theory is treated as "dogma".

The best of the best evidence is still not proof of the truth.

But it's nevertheless the best we can do.

Nobody was around for the BB, so all we have is circumstantial evidence, which is not the same as eye witness proof.

Circumstantial evidence, especially when you have different independent lines of it, is infinitely more reliable then "eye witness testimony".
Also, there is no such thing as "eye witness proof".

It behooves one to be remain open minded, and not just assume any dogma of science is the final truth, or it can become faith and religion, based on circumstantial evidence; science pot calling the religion kettle black.

To be open-minded means that one is prepared to change ones mind in light of new evidence.
But one requires evidence to do that. Without such evidence requiring a change of mind, there is no reason to change ones mind.


But climate and weather is natural and does not use black boxes or dice and cards.

Climate and weather exists within a confined context which is regulated by physics.
Sure, it's complex, but that doesn't mean we can't use math models to predict how weather will develop and / or how climate would or could be affected by certain events.

It only means that it's difficult to do so, since there are a lot of variables to keep into account.

Fuzzy dice data is as circumstantial as it gets. Weak as it is, it is often used as an excuse to force people to obey. Laymen of science often wish to get all to obey; math based on sentimental foundations, such as risk analysis and fear induction.
You are more then welcome to point out a specific example of such happening in science.
I'm not holding my breath
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Almost anyone in a denomination is not saved.
And a telltale sign is their fruits.
And if they believe in evolution, it is almost certain and may indeed be certain, that they are not saved.
Well why not try converting them rather than the useless attempt at disproving evolution and the science that shows us how old things really are? I suppose converting the larger number of scientists who laugh at YEC beliefs is just too big a task. :eek:
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Bible is proven to be the inspired and preserved word of God Almighty, who created all things.
That is not a scientific position as one would need unbiased evidence, which is clearly lacking. Were you there when Earth was created? Was any other person?

You argue science but don't use it yourself.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
That is not a scientific position as one would need unbiased evidence, which is clearly lacking. Were you there when Earth was created? Was any other person?

You argue science but don't use it yourself.
God was there and God actually did it.
So God knows how He did it and when He did it.
The authors of the Bible were inspired by God.
So, the Bible is the testimony of God, who did, was there, knows how He did it, and when He did it.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
God was there and God actually did it.
So God knows how He did it and when He did it.
The authors of the Bible were inspired by God.
So, the Bible is the testimony of God, who did, was there, knows how He did it, and when He did it.
Science is inspired by god too.

Just ask Roger Bacon

""Bacon believed that by using science, certain aspects of spirituality such as the attainment of "Sapientia" or "Divine Wisdom" could be logically explained using tangible evidence. Bacon's Opus Majus was first and foremost, a compendium of sciences which he believed would facilitate the first step towards "Sapientia".""


An actual friar of the church.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
God was there and God actually did it.
So God knows how He did it and when He did it.
The authors of the Bible were inspired by God.
So, the Bible is the testimony of God, who did, was there, knows how He did it, and when He did it.
And who was there to see God do it? You? Who?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Science is inspired by god too.

Just ask Roger Bacon

""Bacon believed that by using science, certain aspects of spirituality such as the attainment of "Sapientia" or "Divine Wisdom" could be logically explained using tangible evidence. Bacon's Opus Majus was first and foremost, a compendium of sciences which he believed would facilitate the first step towards "Sapientia".""


An actual friar of the church.
A Catholic friar is almost for sure unsaved.
 
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