The Brutality of Vikings

[Balthazzar]

Ha!

Is this a competition?

If so, I’ll play.

Are you ATF, by chance?

 

[Revoltingest]

The evil comes from treatment and cruelty. Bondage is rarely preferred over freedom. In America, if you're able to work and don't, how do you survive? Social welfare? Then you become bound to that program. Choices are always nice, but we are all prisoners here. Abusive treatment and no choices as bound people, creates an evil shunned...as it should be.

Falsely equating slavery with employment for a wage.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Are you ATF, by chance?

ATF?

 

[ChristineM]

Ha!

Is this a competition?

If so, I’ll play.

Too bad this isn’t Women’s History Month.

Viking women had far more rights than women of most other cultures of that period

 

[Balthazzar]

Falsely equating slavery with employment for a wage.

Not all in human history counted as slaves were treated with cruelty, yet they were still counted as slaves. Some would suggest that some wives were treated worse than many slaves. It's the concept of bondage that I equate with slavery, and none are truly exempt from this. I can't condone buying, selling, and imprisoning people for labor, but I can associate being bound, having no choice, even when many choices are an option in our bondage.

Again, your utilization of the term being different than my utilization of the term is agreeable. I agree that is the how slavery is viewed and why it is rarely accepted. This doesn't change the reality of everyone being bound. Some have more choices than others, and others had no choice at all. Being a slave to the grind is common phrasing after all, and one that is difficult not to associate with.

 

[Balthazzar]

ATF?

Movie reference about a tobacco lobbyist. It was humor.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not all in human history counted as slaves were treated with cruelty, yet they were still counted as slaves. Some would suggest that some wives were treated worse than many slaves. It's the concept of bondage that I equate with slavery, and none are truly exempt from this. I can't condone buying, selling, and imprisoning people for labor, but I can associate being bound, having no choice, even when many choices are an option in our bondage.

Ineffective rationalization.

 

[Balthazzar]

Ineffective rationalization.

True, but I still can't condone confederate slavery. I can condone the 9-5 and bound on earth type of imprisonment.

 

[Estro Felino]

We are speaking of an incredibly diverse Germanic civilization that became so powerful that the Baltic Sea, the North Sea and the North Atlantic became Viking seas.
As for the brutality...it's a clichée that has been already debunked.

 

[Revoltingest]

True, but I still can't condone confederate slavery. I can condone the 9-5 and bound on earth type of imprisonment.

Now being employed is being in prison?
Such histrionics.
Are you a victim of an employer?
They own you, & keep you in prison?

 

[The Hammer]

True, but I still can't condone confederate slavery. I can condone the 9-5 and bound on earth type of imprisonment.

Not all slavery is chattel slavery like the US had. But all slavery and bondage is wrong regardless of it being chattel slavery or not.

 

[Balthazzar]

Now being employed is being in prison?
Such histrionics.
Are you a victim of an employer?
They own you, & keep you in prison?

No ... Are you a spy?
My bondage is the hanged man. Bound on earth and in heaven. Duty, service, obligations, all part of the dynamic. Does earth own me? Yes. Is it my prison? No. It's my womb for life. Is it cruel? Sometimes. Unjust? Sometimes. I have choices. Many others didn't and some very likely still don't.

 

[Revoltingest]

No ... Are you a spy?
My bondage is the hanged man. Bound on earth and in heaven. Duty, service, obligations, all part of the dynamic. Does earth own me? Yes. Is it my prison? No. It's my womb for life. Is it cruel? Sometimes. Unjust? Sometimes. I have choices. Many others didn't and some very likely still don't.

Incoherent.

 

[Balthazzar]

Not all slavery is chattel slavery like the US had. But all slavery and bondage is wrong regardless of it being chattel slavery or not.

I'll be sure to get my Hakuna Matada on one day, then. I'll call it retirement.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Viking women had far more rights than women of most other cultures of that period

That’s cool.

Do they have a matrilineal social structure or a patrilineal social structure?

How did the women get target practice?

 

[Balthazzar]

Incoherent.

Your contributions are insulting. I'm angry. Can you leave earth? Can you survive without the mercy of others kindness? Can you have a warm shower at will? Can you grab a drink from the fridge? Davy says the Capt. has been sailing the universal seas and is returning. <--- I suggest Davy is correct. Incoherent as this may be to you.

 

[Spice]

How did the women get target practice?

Protecting themselves from would be rapist, and their hearth and home from marauders. Little girls were brought up as warriors more often than not. The other alternative was slave.

 

[ChristineM]

That’s cool.

Do they have a matrilineal social structure or a patrilineal social structure?

How did the women get target practice?

Why would they need target practice? Despite the movies there is still debate over whether the women fought alongside the men.

The could, for example, inherit property, request a divorce, reclaim dowries from their marriages. These were not so of other cultures of the period

 

[ChristineM]

Little girls were brought up as warriors more often than not

There is little hard evidence to support this, mostly (though not always) girls were raised as home keepers and usually married and kept a home for the man

 

[Bear Wild]

Why would they need target practice? Despite the movies there is still debate over whether the women fought alongside the men.

The could, for example, inherit property, request a divorce, reclaim dowries from their marriages. These were not so of other cultures of the period

There is evidence that a female could step into a male role when needed. The woman would then take on the attributes of the position even if it was seen as usually a male role.