The Brutality of Vikings

[ChristineM]

There is evidence that a female could step into a male role when needed. The woman would then take on the attributes of the position even if it was seen as usually a male role.

True, the woman was free to take that route though most didn't

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Norse were typically farmers and tradespeople? Boatbuilders, artists, blacksmiths, fishermen I'm sure, and I suppose some were soldiers or "Pirate Vikings" earning a living wage through travel, exploration, and wars fought as a result of these expeditions. It seems a common trade during the era of greater navigational ability and no more flat earth mindset. Why weren't the Spainards or English dubbed something similar? Like Spanish "Pirate Vikings" or English "Pirate Vikings"?

Anyway, the history is intriguing.

English were pirates, I don't know about Spanish.
It's not viking pirates. Vikings were pirates. These were the Norse who went looting and pillaging, the ones kings paid to go away.

 

[Watchmen]

Seems a common notion, but then was any culture in our history any less brutal than they?

Sometimes I can identify them as more refined than other cultures, but not without severity in thier ways.

Can we make some comparisons of common understandings between cultures as they relate to the "brutality" of ??????

There’s been plenty of brutality among many cultures across the globe. Most recently, I’ve been reminded of Japan’s brutalities against Koreans and the Jesuits (although the Jesuits might have deserved the Japanese response).

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Why would they need target practice? Despite the movies there is still debate over whether the women fought alongside the men.

The could, for example, inherit property, request a divorce, reclaim dowries from their marriages. These were not so of other cultures of the period

In the case I’m thinking of, while the social culture is matrilineal, it was within a patrilineal political system, so the military leaders were male.

In one version, they were ordered to do it. In the other version, they were permitted to do it.

Both by the same author in two different books.

I’m not sure which version would be scarier.

 

[Watchmen]

Your equating of the general need to work for a living with actual slavery is abhorrent.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I've long found it odd that people scorn US Confederates
for their supporting slavery. Yet people take pride in
Viking heritage of slavery, robbery, murder, & terrorism.
Is it the stereotype of horned helmets that makes it OK?

Chill out.

It’s ok to oppose the Confederacy.

And everybody has ancestors.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Ineffective rationalization.

Ineffective histrionics.

 

[Balthazzar]

English were pirates, I don't know about Spanish.
It's not viking pirates. Vikings were pirates. These were the Norse who went looting and pillaging, the ones kings paid to go away.

I prefer the phrasing "Pirate Vikings" because everyone suggests it was an occupation. In good humor. I could call a viking a viking but if piracy was a profession, then why not call them pirates instead of vikings or better yet Pirate vikings? Why the distinction between territories? What makes vikings so special that they get the special differential?

It doesn't matter, or does it? The point is many cultures were very brutal, but vikings seemed less brutal than others yet they get that "special treatment? It's a mystery to me.

 

[Balthazzar]

Chill out.

It’s ok to oppose the Confederacy.

And everybody has ancestors.

I've never been opposed to the confederacy, just unjust treatment of people.

 

[Kathryn]

I've never been opposed to the confederacy, just unjust treatment of people.

Same here! See, we do agree on some things.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

English were pirates

The name Sir Francis Drake comes to mind.

We got a chance to explore the tunnels in Cartagena, recently.

Francis Drake - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

LA TIERRA PROMETIDA, CARLOS VIVES, CARTAGENA DE INDIAS, COLOMBIA, TURISMO​

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Movie reference about a tobacco lobbyist. It was humor.

I’m not good with acronyms.

But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumbiaaaaaaaa!

LA ZENAIDA - Armando Hernandez (cumbia colombiana)​

 

[Spice]

There is little hard evidence to support this, mostly (though not always) girls were raised as home keepers and usually married and kept a home for the man

Although most girls did not leave to be warriors, the poetry and sagas used to piece together their culture shows little difference in the raising and training of children, and says little about the daily life of children in general. They appear not to count for a great deal until they enter their teen years. . .or so I gather from _Valkyrie, The Women of the Viking World_, by Johanna Katrin Fridriksdottir.

I have far more books of varing interest I'm sure I'll never finish, this being just one. I haven't completed it, nor do I remember much of what's been read so far. Maybe one day.

 

[Spice]

I prefer the phrasing "Pirate Vikings" because everyone suggests it was an occupation. In good humor. I could call a viking a viking but if piracy was a profession, then why not call them pirates instead of vikings or better yet Pirate vikings? Why the distinction between territories? What makes vikings so special that they get the special differential?

It doesn't matter, or does it? The point is many cultures were very brutal, but vikings seemed less brutal than others yet they get that "special treatment? It's a mystery to me.

Yep, I don't think of Vikings as brutal in comparison to the European cultures that used the rack, skinning alive, drawn & quartered, disembodied, etc. I think of the Vikings more or less killing quickly and thoroughly. They didn't seem to get any added pleasure from "playing with their prey."

 

[The Hammer]

I'll be sure to get my Hakuna Matada on one day, then. I'll call it retirement.

That's a shame.

"Remember..... the concept of having to 'earn' a living, means you don't deserve to be alive".

 

[Revoltingest]

Chill out.

Can't be "chiller" than I already am.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ineffective histrionics.

Learn definitions of words you use.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Learn definitions of words you use.

Oh, Good Lord!

WTF is your problem, anyway?

You seem angry.

Angry White American Man​

 

[Balthazzar]

I’m not good with acronyms.

But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumbiaaaaaaaa!

LA ZENAIDA - Armando Hernandez (cumbia colombiana)​

That's a shame.

"Remember..... the concept of having to 'earn' a living, means you don't deserve to be alive".

I fail to see the truth in that last bit. In my eyes, earning helps legitimize my position as a citizen. Earning doesn't always equate to income, but it does allude to behavior and conduct. Earning a living would imply income generated from efforts to generate income by most people. What's a living anyway? I'm a student, a hobbyist, a writer, a craftsman, an investigator, a photographer, and a voter ... sometimes. Do these qualify as "a living" or do I need to adopt another definition of living like I'm often made to feel required in other cases due to ridicule for not utilizing terminology and definitions common to those who oppose my own usage? God for example, Christian for example, Eternal life for example, Hell for example, etc..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... My apologies. I doubt you require this. I needed to communicate this, though. Concepts and perspectives are far too often blurred without bridges between.

 

[The Hammer]

I fail to see the truth in that last bit. In my eyes, earning helps legitimize my position as a citizen. Earning doesn't always equate to income, but it does allude to behavior and conduct. Earning a living would imply income generated from efforts to generate income by most people. What's a living anyway? I'm a student, a hobbyist, a writer, a craftsman, an investigator, a photographer, and a voter ... sometimes. Do these qualify as "a living" or do I need to adopt another definition of living like I'm often made to feel required in other cases due to ridicule for not utilizing terminology and definitions common to those who oppose my own usage? God for example, Christian for example, Eternal life for example, Hell for example, etc..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... My apologies. I doubt you require this. I needed to communicate this, though. Concepts and perspectives are far too often blurred without bridges between.

I'm sorry to hear that your confused.

But if you're happy I'm not gonna make you see things any other way.