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The Creationist's Argument and its Greatest Weakness

BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
SkepticThinker said:
You're just being silly now.

Instead of coming up with more crazy claims you can't back up, how about providing evidence to the claim I'm asking you about. If, as you say, atheists are doing this stuff all the time, it should be super easy to find one single example to share. I'm very interested in seeing what an "atheist canard" actually looks like.


P.S. I have read the Bible. You already know that. Many atheists have, actually. It's often part of the reason many of us are no longer believers.
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I've heard the same few objections over and over (yawn). When you have something new, I'm here. That's the point.
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Subduction Zone said:
Sorry but that is terribly illogical. Why would I praise a make believe entity? Your demand demonstrates a lack of logical thought. Try to think over your demand again and see if you can get it right.

And no, most of the evil in the world clearly does not come from skeptics. That can be shown to be wrong by all sorts of evidence and statistics. Of course your "wrong gods" claim is pure No True Scotsman. You can claim that any Christian that acts in an evil matter was not a Christian. You need to be careful with that sort of abuse of logic since by those standards I can show that you are not a "real Christian" either.
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By what standards? We have to agree on a mutual definition of what a Christian is to say who isn't true.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
Sat 7:46

ecco said:
I don't recall anyone saying that you "constantly challenge us with original thought". Frankly, I don't see very much original thought.
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Sat 7:51

ecco said:
That's why we had hundreds of years of war in Europe: Protestant Christians killing Catholic Christians; Catholic Christians killing Protestant Christians.

All worshiping the same God, all worshiping Your God.
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Sat 7:58

ecco said:
Actually, many of the anti-religion cut and pastes are quotes from the bible or comments about the evils portrayed in the bible.

As just one example, I have commented on the evil God heaped upon the world with the Great Flood. I didn't get that information from an atheist site, I got it from your Bible.


Reading the good parts of the Bible and ignoring the bad parts are the hallmark of a religious apologist.
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BilliardsBall said:
...Yes, I'm a dullard not worthy of your replies, which is why you replied to me/commented to me not less than 6 times since Friday! Get real.
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Actually I was doing some catching up on Saturday. That's why I made three replies to your comments. Really.

Three, which is less than six. Really.
Apparently your counting skills are right up there with the rest of your knowledge of science.

I have never referred to you as a slow or stupid person so I don't know why you would make that veiled allegation.

As to why I respond to you, well you say things that just cannot go unchallenged.

BilliardsBall said:
Most of the evil in the Bible comes from skeptics
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BilliardsBall said:
Over 90% of the "Bible objections" presented here are cut-and-paste from atheist sites.
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Now, if you don't want me to reply to you, don't address comments to me. However, I do reserve the right to comment on any of your posts.
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
ecco said:
Sat 7:46



Sat 7:51



Sat 7:58





Actually I was doing some catching up on Saturday. That's why I made three replies to your comments. Really.

Three, which is less than six. Really.
Apparently your counting skills are right up there with the rest of your knowledge of science.

I have never referred to you as a slow or stupid person so I don't know why you would make that veiled allegation.

As to why I respond to you, well you say things that just cannot go unchallenged.



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Now, if you don't want me to reply to you, don't address comments to me. However, I do reserve the right to comment on any of your posts.
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I think your stress level on this is high, "Deceit is in the heart of those who devise evil,
But counselors of peace have joy."
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
Here's a fave I've found true: "He who speaks truth tells what is right,
But a false witness, deceit."
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It's interesting that this is the very same thing I've heard about messianic Jewish Christians. Perhaps that's who you heard it in reference to, and not atheists at all. It would certainly make more sense.

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BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Skwim said:
It's interesting that this is the very same thing I've heard about messianic Jewish Christians. Perhaps that's who you heard it in reference to, and not atheists at all. It would certainly make more sense.

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Considering how little you know of:

1) Judaism
2) Christianity
3) Messianic Judaism

I'm unsurprised: "A wise son accepts his father’s discipline,
But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke."
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
By what standards? We have to agree on a mutual definition of what a Christian is to say who isn't true.
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There is no standard of what is and what is not a Christian. That is why your claim fails. Some people may be better "Christians" than others, but by those standards I am a Christian since I do not violate the rules of the Bible left and right. So the wise thing to do is not to say that anyone is or is not a Christian and dealing with that as a minor side issue.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
BilliardsBall said:
Considering how little you know of:

1) Judaism
2) Christianity
3) Messianic Judaism

I'm unsurprised: "A wise son accepts his father’s discipline,
But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke."
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And this is an example of what I am talking about. You make so many errors and never listen to corrections that by your own standards you are only a scoffer.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
SkepticThinker said:
How about all you Christians get together and figure it out. Then you can let the rest of us know.
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Aha! I suddenly understand why Christians are awarded eternity in heaven. It is to give them time to decide who are Real Christians and who are just good enough to get into Christian Heaven. Yeah, that'll take eternity to figure out.
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
SkepticThinker said:
How about all you Christians get together and figure it out. Then you can let the rest of us know.
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Sure! Simply define who "all of us Christians are" and we'll get together. ;)

Or... since Jesus founded this faith, He can say... and He says, anyone who trusts Him for salvation (born again) is empowered to follow Him, accurately.
 
BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Subduction Zone said:
There is no standard of what is and what is not a Christian. That is why your claim fails. Some people may be better "Christians" than others, but by those standards I am a Christian since I do not violate the rules of the Bible left and right. So the wise thing to do is not to say that anyone is or is not a Christian and dealing with that as a minor side issue.
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NTS! Who decided there is no standard? A Christian? A true Christian? A skeptic! Way to NTS, sister!
 
Bear Wild

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
BilliardsBall said:
... waiting upon first correction, from you ...

Christianity is not based on faith, but on truth. GET SOME TRUTH.
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You mean the truth limited by human words? The truth written by humans long after the events? The truth written for only one group of people? The real truth is in the world not limited by human words. The real truth is there for anyone to learn not limited by language location or culture.
 
Bear Wild

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
BilliardsBall said:
Sure! Simply define who "all of us Christians are" and we'll get together. ;)

Or... since Jesus founded this faith, He can say... and He says, anyone who trusts Him for salvation (born again) is empowered to follow Him, accurately.
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Was in Jesus or was in Saul / Paul who founded Christianity? How many gentiles did Jesus actually convert to his faith?
 
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