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The Devil allows freedom of all false religions but not the true one.

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am on about people griping about America while using american equipment to gripe
It's the Ameristanian way.
And I heartily approve of using our freedom of speech to
criticize the boneheaded & evil things our government does.

Biden seems determined to maintain hostilities with Iran.
I'd hoped he'd be a big improvement over Trump, but so
far he's just another Israeli tool bent on conflict.
I hope this changes, but I'm not holding me breath.

An alternate source....US takes down Iran-linked news sites, alleges disinformation

Let's imagine something....
We Ameristanians have had some nasty disinformation
disseminated by our own news media, particularly during the
last 4 years. Suppose Iran had seized all those websites,
or sabotaged all those media. How would our government
have reacted?
Teeth would gnash.
Sabers would rattle.
Threats would abound.
Assets would be seized.
Embargoes would be enhanced.
And perhaps bombs would be loosed upon them.

Note: Our military does have actual plans in place
for a ground invasion of Iran. They're detailed to
the extent of engineering specifications for
specialized equipment, eg, mortar towing vehicles.
 
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Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I don't care if you put underwear on your head and dance naked under a full moon if you think that gets you closer to God, knock yourself out. But as soon as religious beliefs are expressed in a way that assumes it has authority over there, well that begins to cross a line.

I don't care if you think a devil exists and it accounts for bad behavior, but if you think those who don't believe as you do are evil and the devil is moving us, then how rational is your decision-making? If you're that lost in reality what kind of threat do you pose to others?

I'm not saying you pose a threat, but you talk in similar ways to those who DO pose a threat.

Bro by the time we done with you, people are going to believe God is the King of America and the world, as he is, and will submit to the Mahdi.

We gone past that line long ago, we don't acknowledge authority other then God's. Everything else is about practicality.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Jews in Israel are racist, the only good potential Jews to me are anti-Zionist Jews. If you didn't know this view I had, now you know. I believe supporting Israel is evil because they are oppressors.

I reject your hate. The Shi'a in Iran are oppressors as well - you should hate them for the same reason.

If I were to give you back what you gave out: The only good potential Shi'a muslims to me are the anti-Iranian Muslims.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
By the way: there is no 'devil'. And all religions are the same - partly true and partly false including Shi'a Islam.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I reject your hate. The Shi'a in Iran are oppressors as well - you should hate them for the same reason.

If I were to give you back what you gave out: The only good potential Shi'a muslims to me are the anti-Iranian Muslims.

There is battle between good and evil, one side will be in heaven and the other in hell.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Dude your government bombs countries and supports Saudi Arabia and it starving 20 million people in Yemen. We shiites are like Jedi Knights and you guys are the evil empire wake up.
If you are going to be serious about human rights you need to drop dogmatic language like Devils.

No doubt a lot of the conflict between Islamic extremists and the West kills many innocent people. Who's going to convince Islamic extremists to be less extreme?
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If you are going to be serious about human rights you need to drop dogmatic language like Devils.

Nope, Quran used the awareness of the devil to make people have mental clarity in the war between good and evil. I do the same.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
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F1fan

Veteran Member
You guys want to mix everyone up that resists you. You support Al-Nusra which was a violent group linked to Al-Qaeeda which was linked to ISIS. And when Russia and Iran - more Iran, defeated ISIS, you killed Qasim Sulaimani the main man who did it.

You guys are going to lose - even if has to be the Mahdi coming out and God destroying your civilization in the same way Noah's people were destroyed. But your propaganda is dying, even your favorite word "terrorist" is losing it's appeal.

This is why you getting desperate.
The USA no doubt has many enemies who are extremists, and the difference between groups is well understood by security experts. The lay person like me has little knowledge of all the extremist groups out there. Citizens want security. But even in the USA we have about 40% of citizens who vote for conservatives, and we know these conservatives are very aggressive against Muslims.

So we are a world of tribes and some members want conflict. That is Muslims of all stripes and people in the West of all stripes. There is no simple solution, and no one wants to be the chump who agrees to peace.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
You guys are going to lose - even if has to be the Mahdi coming out and God destroying your civilization in the same way Noah's people were destroyed. But your propaganda is dying, even your favorite word "terrorist" is losing it's appeal.

This is why you getting desperate.

Bro by the time we done with you, people are going to believe God is the King of America and the world, as he is, and will submit to the Mahdi.

We gone past that line long ago, we don't acknowledge authority other then God's. Everything else is about practicality.

There is battle between good and evil, one side will be in heaven and the other in hell.
And this is why many see Iran as being a bigger threat than much else - because those in control, and who feed the likes of you, are just another dogmatic belief system beyond any reasonable discussion - when you believe this nonsense. How could anyone take you seriously?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Your government is terrorist by any definition you can apply to it. Let's see you define it, and not have your government included in it.

Nope, my current government is France which has the backing of the UN, every action it takes is first reviewed by experts in international law and ratified by the UN

Unlike terrorist who simply kill because they find easy targets to make themselves feel good while prolonged the war on terrorism.

And trust me, it is a war. I.e the world against a few extremists.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
And this is why many see Iran as being a bigger threat than much else - because those in control, and who feed the likes of you, are just another dogmatic belief system beyond any reasonable discussion - when you believe this nonsense. How could anyone take you seriously?

With the Quran, and true interpretation, people will come to the their Lord, their God, their King, the true king. It's going to happen no matter how much desperate attempts to put out God's light by your mouths or stop our websites, etc.. it doesn't matter. You can't stop truth - people are only going to become more interested in our interpretation of Quran which yes is a threat to all oppressors including your government.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nope, my current government is France which has the backing of the UN, every action it takes is first reviewed by experts in international law and ratified by the UN

Unlike terrorist who simply kill because they find easy targets to make themselves feel good while prolonged the war on terrorism.

And trust me, it is a war. I.e the world against a few extremists.

Dude, when do we kill innocents. Bring examples? Iran and Shiites, show examples. It's you guys who do it and then make it as if we do it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I reject your hate. The Shi'a in Iran are oppressors as well - you should hate them for the same reason.

If I were to give you back what you gave out: The only good potential Shi'a muslims to me are the anti-Iranian Muslims.
Dang, man....talk about hate.
The old "the only good so-&-sos are"....really?
There is diversity in Iran.
Judge not Iranians by the worst of their government,
lest ye be judged by the same standard. We started
the hostilities in 1953 (the coup), & we've kept up our
malevolence continually ever since, killing hundreds
of thousands of them. We owe them some peace.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
With the Quran, and true interpretation, people will come to the their Lord, their God, their King, the true king. It's going to happen no matter how much desperate attempts to put out God's light by your mouths or stop our websites, etc.. it doesn't matter. You can't stop truth - people are only going to become more interested in our interpretation of Quran which yes is a threat to all oppressors including your government.
And if I said, no it isn't, and you are living in a delusional world, what proof exactly have you got apart from your religious texts? You certainly don't seem to have any rational thoughts to back you up. :oops:
 
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