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The Devil allows freedom of all false religions but not the true one.

Link

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i very much doubt that. Murderers in the name of god will remain murderers in the name of god. You have very little idea if the french mindset do you.

As of now it is drawing back to give you guys a chance. I really wonder if you are capable given the history if terror groups that form following withdrawal

You lump the people fighting terrorists your government creates with the terrorist it creates and this is why they create them, to confuse people and mix it all up with their word terrorist. There is good "terrorists" like Nelson Mendala and bad ones like Osama Bin Laden.

You got to be able to discern that. And there is good Muslims resisting oppressors called terrorists and bad ones who go kill innocents called terrorists. You lump them all in the same basket because of deceiving media.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You lump the people fighting terrorists your government creates with the terrorist it creates and this is why they create them, to confuse people and mix it all up with their word terrorist. There is good "terrorists" like Nelson Mendala and bad ones like Osama Bin Laden.

You got to be able to discern that. And there is good Muslims resisting oppressors called terrorists and bad ones who go kill innocents called terrorists. You lump them all in the same basket because of deceiving media.


Terrorists use terror to kill people

Jeez, that know there are good muslims, far more good ones than terrorists. That doesn't make the terrorism ok.

If you are going to continue pidgin holing me with your ego guessing then we can finish this right here
 

Link

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Can you define terrorism in a way that we can assess who is really a terrorist and not it being a deceiving propaganda tool?
 

soulsurvivor

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Your government uses terror and kills people too.

And? There is actually a difference between aiding the official government of the country with problems with UN backing and killing innocent people with terror methods in a bid to seize power.

But feel free to call it terrorism it it help you
 

Link

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And? There is actually a difference between aiding the official government of the country with problems with UN backing and killing innocent people with terror methods in a bid to seize power.

But feel free to call it terrorism it it help you

So UN determines who is a terrorist and who isn't? Please define it clearly.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I do envision a world where all nations are run by sane people and we’re nobody is starving. I believe humans are smart enough to make it happen. I think we would have to accept that there will always be richer people. I’m cool with that. However, I do still think everyone can have enough money for shelter, food and clothing. World peace is attainable.
 

Link

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I do envision a world where all nations are run by sane people and we’re nobody is starving. I believe humans are smart enough to make it happen. I think we would have to accept that there will always be richer people. I’m cool with that. However, I do still think everyone can have enough money for shelter, food and clothing. World peace is attainable.

It's attainable and easy if people are not apathetic. Apathy is a type of opposite to love too. Not just hate is. And I believe people will be apathetic without God's guidance for justice and peace and we won't unite without his rope.

Oppressors need supporters, but supporters are never enough. It happens to be, that the greatest reason for oppressors is due the silence of those who watch by. Their silence speaks loudly as "go ahead oppress".
 

Link

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Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Now what makes you think that we agree with them doing so?

Action speaks, apathy and just watching idly speaks as in "go ahead and oppress".

If you are active and speak against the oppressors, then I salute you.

If not, you are part of the problem.
 

McBell

Unbound
Can you define terrorism in a way that we can assess who is really a terrorist and not it being a deceiving propaganda tool?
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There are several other hints throughout this thread. Destruction of the West civilisation etc. It all mounts up

I didn't say the US was any better.
The real point is that all must change their ways.
As top dogs in this fight, the primary burden falls
upon US.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
It has done the opposite since revolution of Iran till now. This is a myth you guys create, it's track record is that it supports dictators like the regime in Bahrain.
It will change I’m sure because the us doesn’t like supporting oppressive dictators
 

Link

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Also, why do we Muslims have to be enforced the concept of countries. What if we do want to become one nation and elect a government that oversees us all as one nation and that government is entrusted to implement the revelation of God. Sure a lot of Islam doesn't make sense now, but we can sort all that out among ourselves (Muslims I mean). Why don't we have the right? Why do we have to accept nation states?

We should be able to do both - whatever we decide, we get to rule ourselves.
 
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