The Devil allows freedom of all false religions but not the true one.

[Link]

It will change I’m sure because the us doesn’t like supporting oppressive dictators

That's what they tell you. But it won't change as long as the corrupt oligarchs keep controlling US government and deceiving the masses in media, education, etc.

 

[McBell]

So who decides what is unlawful. US? UN?

That is the trick, now isn't it?
What one country calls legal, another calls illegal.

So it appears that it is more a matter of semantics than anything else.
Of course, while the semantics are being argued over, how many people are dying?

 

[Jimmy]

Also, why do we Muslims have to be enforced the concept of countries. What if we do want to become one nation and elect a government that oversees us all as one nation and that government is entrusted to implement the revelation of God. Sure a lot of Islam doesn't make sense now, but we can sort all that out among ourselves (Muslims I mean). Why don't we have the right? Why do we have to accept nation states?

We should be able to do both - whatever we decide, we get to rule ourselves.

Well if that’s what Muslim countries want. To be one nation like the USA. I don’t see the harm in that

 

[Link]

That is the trick, now isn't it?
What one country calls legal, another calles illegal.

So it appears that it is more a matter of semantics than anything else.
Of course, while the semantics are being argued over, how many people are dying?

Exactly, ISIS came out with strength in attacking Iraq because "Al-Nusra" was not only a legal terrorist organization but trained by western governments and this was thanks to Obama. They ended almost all joining ISIS which was illegal terrorist organization anwyays.

Go figure.

It was Qasem Sulaimani the alive martyr who stopped ISIS and I personally believe Obama knew it would happen (they all go to the side of ISIS) and it was part of the plan of US foreign policy.

 

[Link]

Well if that’s what Muslim countries want. To be one nation like the USA. I don’t see the harm in that

You don't but check what George Bush says about "The Caliphate". All he did was to stop the "caliphate".

 

[Jimmy]

You don't but check what George Bush says about "The Caliphate". All he did was to stop the "caliphate".

Well I’m sure Muslims are smart enough to make it happen

 

[Link]

Well I’m sure Muslims are smart enough to make it happen

Inshallah, we will.

 

[Link]

One thing we have to do is enshrine a constitution protecting all sects and religions if we are going to do this. For sure, this would be primary, if we are ever going to solve our disputes and unite on a Shariah (or find some agreement) and get rid of the plague dividing us.

 

[Revoltingest]

It seems a good time for all to reflect upon the ill
effects of accusations of lies, supporting terrorism,
anti-semitism, & islamophobia.
The issues don't need such labels, nor should
this discussion be made so personal.

 

[Link]

And we are attacked for "Shiism" and pushing it on the Muslims so much when Khomeini proposed for Muslims to unite on one government knowing majority are Sunni and it would be a Sunni leader leading us in our current demographics.

 

[Link]

It seems a good time for all to reflect upon the ill
effects of accusations of lies, supporting terrorism,
anti-semitism, & islamophobia.
The issues don't need such labels, nor should
this discussion be made so personal.

Brother, I say this sincerely, if you ever believe in Shiite Islam and Quran, don't reveal your faith, keep striving for justice and speaking wisdom as a non-believer in appearance. We need justice in these dark times in speech by people. The propaganda is hard to bear as a Muslim and especially a Shiite Twelver in this times. We are hated so much for wanting nothing but what Quran teaches us and what our Imams (a) strove for.

The hadiths show people of different religions or lack of them, without hatred towards Ahlulbayt (a) and their lovers all enter paradise.

I see you as such a person. Few of you there is in these dark times among our opponents.

 

[Jimmy]

And we are attacked for "Shiism" and pushing it on the Muslims so much when Khomeini proposed for Muslims to unite on one government knowing majority are Sunni and it would be a Sunni leader leading us in our current demographics.

I wish your people well on getting along.

 

[Revoltingest]

Brother, I say this, if you ever believe in Shiite Islam and Quran, don't reveal your faith, keep striving for justice and speaking wisdom as a non-believer in appearance. We need justice in these dark times in speech by people. The propaganda is hard to bear as a Muslim and especially a Shiite Twelver in this times. We are hated so much for wanting nothing but what Quran teaches us and what our Imams (a) strove for.

Whatever I've believed in I've never hid.
I've no fear of the haters....perhaps cuz
nearly all admire me. It's true!

 

[Link]

Whatever I've believed in I've never hid.
I've no fear of the haters....perhaps cuz
nearly all admire me. It's true!

It's true.

 

[Link]

I wish your people well on getting along.

People like you Jimmy, even if you don't believe in anything about God, but you do (mashallah), I believe people without hatred to God's light and his chosen, and their believers, they all enter paradise.

This is what our ahadith teach and I wish one day to show, this is what in fact, Quran teaches.

Disbelievers promised hell really who is meant are the haters. Of course, everyone including Trump will say he loves us Muslims and Shiite Muslims and Iranian people, but it's lies.

Most people their hatred has become apparent.

 

[Link]

Actually I will make a thread about non-haters all entering paradise from ahadith, Quran, and reasoning.

 

[McBell]

See in your definition, the revolution of US and overthrowing British monarchy would be terrorism on two definitions.

It was overthrowing the government. And it was unlawful per the government of that time.

And what of your favourite grouP?
Have they engaged in what the presented definition would deem terrorism?

 

[Link]

And what of your favourite grouP?
Have they engaged in what the presented definition would deem terrorism?

It's a term we should let go of in my view, it's too lop-sided in definition with bias. It doesn't have objective way of being determined.

 

[Jimmy]

I was thinking. Establish one Muslim nation but have Sunnis control the political side and the Shia control the religious side. Kind of like separation between church and state in the United States. You’ll probably say it’s a bad idea but I’m just spit bawling.

 

[McBell]

It's a term we should let go of in my view, it's too lop-sided in definition with bias. It doesn't have objective way of being determined.

This claim would be much more believable if you had NOT just had a multipage rant about all of us other terrorists....


Interesting though that you forgot to answer the question:

And what of your favourite group?
Have they engaged in what the presented definition would deem terrorism?​