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the devil speeks at UN

Ciscokid

Well-Known Member
If any nation attacked any country in Europe, the US would be on them like white on rice. We [the US] may make mistakes and **** people off, but we'll protect our allies.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Godlike said:
Hugo Chavez is great fun! There are few who would have the stones to stand up and say what he said before the United Nations. I agree with most of it too.

Go Hugo, stick it to'em all...
Yup, my brother emailed me saying, "Did you hear that the Devil has been identified?" Made my day! :p

Axis of evil...

Evildoers....

Hey, if you're gonna use such rhetoric, at least do it with flourish. Can still smell the sulphur.... lol! :biglaugh:
 

kai

ragamuffin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5372214.stm

just look at this bunch of reprobates

President Hugo Chavez briefly took on the guise of book reviewer. He said the book explained everything you needed to know about the world.

Bolivia's President, Evo Morales, also had a prop. A former coca grower, he held up a coca leaf during his speech and castigated the United States for what he called its neo-colonialist efforts to eliminate coca production.

President Robert Mugabe bracketed Washington and London together in denouncing what he suggested were attempts to promote regime change in his country.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
kai said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5372214.stm

just look at this bunch of reprobates

President Hugo Chavez briefly took on the guise of book reviewer. He said the book explained everything you needed to know about the world.

Bolivia's President, Evo Morales, also had a prop. A former coca grower, he held up a coca leaf during his speech and castigated the United States for what he called its neo-colonialist efforts to eliminate coca production.

President Robert Mugabe bracketed Washington and London together in denouncing what he suggested were attempts to promote regime change in his country.
I'm not sure which one is more amusing, them or the fact that you're so annoyed by it. :D

And honestly, I don't see what business the U.S. has trying to eliminate coca production when we have some of the highest consumption. They wouldn't be growin it if we weren't buyin it.

Btw, try googling "Iran Contra cocaine".
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
kai said:
well i would like to take your word for it but
http://www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=nd05norris

the British journal of nuclear scientists says................ wrong again!

Um no it is you who is wrong Kai....lol

"The United Kingdom has always cooperated closely with United States on nuclear-weapon development and deployment. British scientists participated in the Manhattan Project, and the United Kingdom has been granted access to U.S. weapons designs through the 1958 U.S.-British Mutual Defense Agreement. The United Kingdom currently leases its 58 Trident missiles from the U.S. Navy and is believed to base its warhead design on the U.S. W-76 warhead."

From the A.C.A
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005_12/Dec-Trident.asp

;)

Have faith Kai, I do not lie...ever.
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
Ciscokid said:
If any nation attacked any country in Europe, the US would be on them like white on rice. We [the US] may make mistakes and **** people off, but we'll protect our allies.

We don't need you helping us, we should help ourselves.
We are not your 'allies' just because Tony kisses George's behind that does NOT make us allies.
Never...

If a nation attacks europe then europe can or should deal with it, France has hydrogen weapons, so does the UK (well fission weapons), we can make an army 5 times the size of yours with our far superior combined populations, even without Russia.

You're (people of the USA) lucky we are CURRENTLY war weary socialists..remember it took the combined might of the US the UK the Soviet Union and Canada to finally defeat ONE european nation...Germany... well and Japan later on but you nuked them anyway so...did you 'figure' Japan and the Japanese had forgotten about that..hehe not from what I hear.

Never forget that Europe has always existed in a state of constant warfare up until WW2, we are not by nature a peace loving people, who knows where we will all be in 100 years time? empires rise and fall as we British know only too well...don't turn your backs on us.

If your nation ceased interfering in the executive decision making processes of other nations, pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan and signed some environmental treaties converts to socialism and ceases executing mostly African decent americans/Blacks/Afro americans (whatever label applies) for drug offenses and shooting cops and each other etc..withdrew all its Air bases from British soil and ended this ridiculous War On Terror.

Oh and stops messing with the Elohim...that would be great.

Then I would be proud to call the Americans friends and allies...until that great day your country remains the greatest threat to global stability and world peace since the rise of the 3rd Reich.
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
That will do from me....

Iam perhaps biased by emotive subjectivity..I percieve much of the suffering the US has inflicted upon the world through inaction and action.

Look at the current turmoil in Sudan, literally millions are suffering greatly, starving in refugee camps, or being murdered and raped by government supported invading forces, men women and children, christians too...where is mighty America for those poor desperate people?

Nowhere to be seen, they could not care any less...and my weak excuse for a nation too is included in this attack..it makes me sick.

But anyway...there you have it.

It also makes me very angry..maybe..I do go 'to a dark place' here but nevertheless if I had the power...I would help those people, with soldiers and tanks if necessary.
(No body massacres thousands of innocent families on my shift...hell no)

When I was a child I imagined America to be a wonderous place, full of greatness and power, the triumph of freedom.

I was wrong, its worse then here...and that does suck.
 

kai

ragamuffin
Simon Gnosis said:
Um no it is you who is wrong Kai....lol

"The United Kingdom has always cooperated closely with United States on nuclear-weapon development and deployment. British scientists participated in the Manhattan Project, and the United Kingdom has been granted access to U.S. weapons designs through the 1958 U.S.-British Mutual Defense Agreement. The United Kingdom currently leases its 58 Trident missiles from the U.S. Navy and is believed to base its warhead design on the U.S. W-76 warhead."

From the A.C.A
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005_12/Dec-Trident.asp

;)

Have faith Kai, I do not lie...ever.
never said you lied my friend, but guess what your wrong again, we have our own warheads, you said we had US ones and needed US permision to fire them
 

kai

ragamuffin
lilithu said:
I'm not sure which one is more amusing, them or the fact that you're so annoyed by it. :D

And honestly, I don't see what business the U.S. has trying to eliminate coca production when we have some of the highest consumption. They wouldn't be growin it if we weren't buyin it.

Btw, try googling "Iran Contra cocaine".
Ha! Lilithu my wounds from our last lterary duel have almost healed after you retreated from the fray, and these clowns do not annoy me , it amuses me to see how some people look up to these thugs and their Anti america gang.

and you wouldnt be buying it if they didnt grow it unless you agree that cocaine is the real thing
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
kai said:
never said you lied my friend, but guess what your wrong again, we have our own warheads, you said we had US ones and needed US permision to fire them

Kai do you know anything about missle control?
Which nation's military sattelites do we use to target and deploy nukes with?
Guess..it isnt Poland and no we don't have any.

leasing my ol pal means to be loaned...we loan them, the actual explosive part of the war head belongs to the US navy by treaty...what part of this do you find hard to deal with?
The US maintains our Trident war heads, we built the rockets and warhead housing, we dont own any of it though.
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
kai said:
Ha! Lilithu my wounds from our last lterary duel have almost healed after you retreated from the fray, and these clowns do not annoy me , it amuses me to see how some people look up to these thugs and their Anti america gang.

and you wouldnt be buying it if they didnt grow it unless you agree that cocaine is the real thing

Anti america gang aka the entire world..
 

kai

ragamuffin
Simon Gnosis said:
By the way you might want to edit the title of your initial post from speeks to speaks..

Just a suggestion, you might prove me wrong...:rolleyes:

Unless its some new US spelling you have picked up from your American allies? :D


ha mock my working class secondary modern education would you, i put this in on purpose to use as my new pomposity detector......:rubs his hands in glee ,caught another one!
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
kai said:
ha mock my working class secondary modern education would you, i put this in on purpose to use as my new pomposity detector......:rubs his hands in glee ,caught another one!

Hmm my 'Doh' meter is twitching anyway....
 

kai

ragamuffin
Simon Gnosis said:
Kai do you know anything about missle control?
Which nation's military sattelites do we use to target and deploy nukes with?
Guess..it isnt Poland and no we don't have any.

leasing my ol pal means to be loaned...we loan them, the actual explosive part of the war head belongs to the US navy by treaty...what part of this do you find hard to deal with?
The US maintains our Trident war heads, we built the rockets and warhead housing, we dont own any of it though.
now come on do we loan them or did we build them
sorry man wrong again
www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmselect/cmdfence/835/835.pdf

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/d-5.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation
 

Smoke

Done here.
I wouldn't go so far as to say the UN is useless; it does a lot of good. But I agree with Chávez that the Security Council system needs to be revamped. To the extent the UN is dominated by the victors of World War II, it fails to be a truly collaborative body.
 

kai

ragamuffin
MidnightBlue said:
I wouldn't go so far as to say the UN is useless; it does a lot of good. But I agree with Chávez that the Security Council system needs to be revamped. To the extent the UN is dominated by the victors of World War II, it fails to be a truly collaborative body.
i think we all know that the UN needs revamping i doubt if it could ever be truly collaborative body the more countries involved with vetos etc the more stalemates, maybe it should have a totally independent policing force or armed wing i am not sure
 

kai

ragamuffin
Simon Gnosis said:
Anti america gang aka the entire world..
its a big world out there America has true allies this gang of thugs wont stand the test of time . who else are you talking about your european friends are a fickle lot at the best of times.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Ciscokid said:
If any nation attacked any country in Europe, the US would be on them like white on rice.
You think the US government would care if Poland attacked Slovakia? If Israel attacked France?

Ciscokid said:
We [the US] may make mistakes and **** people off, but we'll protect our allies.
Unless our allies fail to join us in an unprovoked attack on a Near Eastern country, and then the U.S. Congress will go into an official snit.
 
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