The Divinity of the Quran vs. the Bible

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( 2) worship me )
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
jesus receives worship alot and doesnt condemn it:
Matthew 8:2 - A leper came and worshipped Jesus. [9:18; 15:25; Mark 5:6]
Matthew 14:33 - After Jesus had calmed the storm, the disciples worshipped Him saying He was the Son of God.
John 9:38 - The man said he believed, and he worshipped Jesus.heb 1:6 Angels are instructed by God to worship JesusMatthew 28:9,17 - After His resurrection, His disciples worshipped Him. [Cf. John 20:28,29]
Luke 24:52 - Even after He had ascended back to heaven, they worshipped Him.
　
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
islam 432 are you a christian now?
or do you need more?

 

[Bowman]

Nice replies, sts....

 

[Islam432]

Let's look...

5.72 - 73


لقد كفر الذين قالوا إن الله هو المسيح ابن مريم وقال المسيح يبني إسرءيل اعبدوا الله ربي وربكم إنه من يشرك بالله فقد حرم الله عليه الجنة ومأويه النار وما للظلمين من أنصار لقد كفر الذين قالوا إن الله ثالث ثلثة وما من إله إلا إله وحد وإن لم ينتهوا عما يقولون ليمسن الذين كفروا منهم عذاب أليم



Laqad kafara allatheena qaloo inna Allaha huwa almaseehu ibnu maryama waqala almaseehu ya banee isra-eela oAAbudoo Allaha rabbee warabbakum innahu man yushrik biAllahi faqad harrama Allahu AAalayhi aljannata wama/wahu alnnaru wama lilththalimeena min ansarin laqad kafara allatheena qaloo inna Allaha thalithu thalathatin wama min ilahin illa ilahun wahidun wa-in lam yantahoo AAamma yaqooloona layamassanna allatheena kafaroo minhum AAathabun aleemun

Certainly they whom disbelieved said: "Truly “allah”, he The Messiah, Mary's son,” and The Messiah said: " My son’s of Israel, you worship “allah”, My Lord and your Lord, truly him, he associates a partner with “allah” so certainly “allah”, he forbade on him the Paradise, and his home is the fire, and no wrongdoers from helpers.” Certainly they whom disbelieved said: "Truly “allah” a third (of) three.” And not from god except one god, and lest they do not refrain from what they say, a painful torture will touch whom they disbelieved from them. (5.72 – 73)



These ayahs tell us about what the disbelievers said.

They believe:


1) That “allah” is The Messiah.

Fact is, “allah” is not The Messiah. He never has been and never will be. Thus, the Koran rightly records this as a false statement.




They believe:

2) That Jesus said for Israel to worship “allah” along with Him.

Fact is, Jesus never once said for Israel to worship “allah”, neither with Him, or without Him. Thus, the Koran also rightly records this as a false statement.




They believe:

3) That Jesus associated a partner with “allah”.

Fact is, Jesus never once associated a partnership with “allah”. Thus, the Koran also rightly records this as a false statement.




They believe:

4) That “allah” is a third of three.


Fact is, “allah” is not a third of three, and neither is the Biblical Holy Trinity. Never has been and never will be. Thus, the Koran also rightly records this as a false statement, as well.

i think you need a checkup....might be serious mental disorder

 

[Islam432]

( 2) worship me )
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
jesus receives worship alot and doesnt condemn it:
Matthew 8:2 - A leper came and worshipped Jesus. [9:18; 15:25; Mark 5:6]
Matthew 14:33 - After Jesus had calmed the storm, the disciples worshipped Him saying He was the Son of God.
John 9:38 - The man said he believed, and he worshipped Jesus.heb 1:6 Angels are instructed by God to worship JesusMatthew 28:9,17 - After His resurrection, His disciples worshipped Him. [Cf. John 20:28,29]
Luke 24:52 - Even after He had ascended back to heaven, they worshipped Him.
　
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
islam 432 are you a christian now?
or do you need more?

accroding to bible anyone who is leaded by the spirit of god is the son of god

 

[DeitySlayer]

i think you need a checkup....might be serious mental disorder

He doesn't need a checkup. Although you may disagree with the truth of what Christians believe, it is plain WRONG for the Qur'an to state beliefs that they do not actually hold.

I may disagree with the Muslim teaching that Muhammad was Allah's messenger, but to claim that Muslims worship Muhammad is WRONG.

 

[DeitySlayer]

accroding to bible anyone who is leaded by the spirit of god is the son of god

Says where?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Personally, I am wondering when the official Islamic version of the Bible is being published.
Or the official Christian version of the Qu'ran.

 

[allright]

accroding to bible anyone who is leaded by the spirit of god is the son of god

But as many as who received him to them he gave permission to become sons of God.
Jesus is God's only begotten Son and is of one nature with the Father.
All others are adopted as sons of God by Jesus's permission and receive the Holy Spirit when they receive Jesus as both Lord and Savior.
John 1:12-14
Unless one is born again he cannot see or enter the kingdom of God.

 

[Bowman]

i think you need a checkup....might be serious mental disorder

You can do better than this, brother...put forth a researched reply...unless, of course, your scriptures are not worth it...

 

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islam432 : " accroding to bible anyone who is leaded by the spirit of god is the son of god"

what does this mean, in relation to the quoted scripture? are you saying that son of god in these verses do not refer to jesus? if so :

the only verses that mention son of god and/or son are :

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
God's son (v2)

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

"by whom also he made the worlds;" - by gods son -
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.


Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

this vers screams jesus ^^


Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God

he has to be talking about jesus - the word of god.

 

[Islam432]

But as many as who received him to them he gave permission to become sons of God.
Jesus is God's only begotten Son and is of one nature with the Father.
All others are adopted as sons of God by Jesus's permission and receive the Holy Spirit when they receive Jesus as both Lord and Savior.
John 1:12-14
Unless one is born again he cannot see or enter the kingdom of God.

Where is begotten son of god mentioned

John 1:12-14

12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent,[a] nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

for complete answers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S_A9ERJWN0&feature=player_embedded

 

[Islam432]

islam432 : " accroding to bible anyone who is leaded by the spirit of god is the son of god"

what does this mean, in relation to the quoted scripture? are you saying that son of god in these verses do not refer to jesus? if so :

the only verses that mention son of god and/or son are :

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
God's son (v2)

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

"by whom also he made the worlds;" - by gods son -
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.


Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

this vers screams jesus ^^


Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God

he has to be talking about jesus - the word of god.

God is talking to Jesus(pbuh) as messenger not as the begotten son of god

according to bible , Adam is son of god actually all those who follow god is son's of god............and we muslims have no problem with that

but some Christians claim no he's the begotten son of god......sorry there is no such thing there in bible

 

[Islam432]

Says where?

8:14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God

 

[fallingblood]

God is talking to Jesus(pbuh) as messenger not as the begotten son of god

according to bible , Adam is son of god actually all those who follow god is son's of god............and we muslims have no problem with that

but some Christians claim no he's the begotten son of god......sorry there is no such thing there in bible

Actually there is. John 3:16: for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son....

The Bible does not talk about Jesus as being a messenger of God. Jesus, in the Bible, transcends that.

 

[Islam432]

Actually there is. John 3:16: for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son....

The Bible does not talk about Jesus as being a messenger of God. Jesus, in the Bible, transcends that.

John 3:16: for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

In RSV this verse is thrown out of the bible as Christian scholars felt its fabrication

 

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Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

definition of the word translated: "only begotten" :
μονογενής
monogenēs
mon-og-en-ace
From G3441 and G1096; only born, that is, sole: - only (begotten, child).

 

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not reborn - only born, see nothing about messenger, though he is a messenger of god.

 

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Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

god= the father- the son- the holy spirit = 1 god

jesus, who is an eternal spiritual being/god, with no beginning, from heaven, was made flesh inside mary, by the effectual working of god's power. - emmanuel = god with us - born without the sinfullness of man, to be the lamb of god without spot or blemish/sin to sacrifice himself for our sins.

 

[fallingblood]

John 3:16: for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

In RSV this verse is thrown out of the bible as Christian scholars felt its fabrication

Actually it wasn't thrown out. The verse fits. Scholars did not feel that it was a fabrication. They did take out the word begotten; however, that is only one word.

The Greek portrays Jesus as a unique son. The Gospel of John itself makes a very strong case that the author believed Jesus was divine anyway.

 

[Islam432]

Actually it wasn't thrown out. The verse fits. Scholars did not feel that it was a fabrication. They did take out the word begotten; however, that is only one word.

The Greek portrays Jesus as a unique son. The Gospel of John itself makes a very strong case that the author believed Jesus was divine anyway.

First can you tell me what's the meaning of the word 'Begotten'

Secondly where is it written in bible jesus(pbuh) is a special son of god??

Third: the verse thrown out was related to trinity and you are correct not this one