The Donald Trump Rape Trial is underway.

[Callisto]

Have you forgotten that people change over time? What we once feared, we don't always fear today. What we once cared so passionately about may mean little today, while what we never used to even think about may today take on much more importance.

IIRC, she said her mother had recently passed and, as is often the case, she began contemplating life and choices made which led to her decision to not let this continue to go unanswered.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not surprised. As you mentioned before, you're not well versed in the US legal system.

Considering that the University had to compensate three gentlemen, unjustly accused of something untrue...well I guess the prosecutor really made a blunder.

Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Callisto]

I'd expect a poster to understand that whenever man can have all the women in the world...and whenever women practically throw themselves at him...
well...such stories don't have a high degree of credibility.
I didn't say it's impossible. I am speaking in terms of likelihood.

It's like I said Leonardo Di Caprio raped me. How credible is that? In terms of degrees of likelihood?

Which man, Di Caption or Trump

Considering that the University had to compensate three gentlemen, unjustly accused of something untrue...well I guess the prosecutor really made a blunder.

Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What does that have to do with this case or it being high profile? Nothing.

There are millions of other cases that are legitimate and where the guilty walk.

 

[Estro Felino]

What does that have to do with this case or it being high profile? Nothing.

There are millions of other cases that are legitimate and where the guilty walk.

Because you said prosecutors don't promote a criminal lawsuit, unless there is evidence.
I showed you ...not always.

 

[Callisto]

Because you said prosecutors don't promote a criminal lawsuit, unless there is evidence.
I showed you ...not always.

I said they're not in the business of bringing frivolous cases; and the prosecutor in the Duke case dropped the charges.

Not all cases are won despite actual evidence. You'd have a point if you provided evidence that prosecutors most commonly file spurious cases. This, however, amounts to cherry picking.

 

[Estro Felino]

I said they're not in the business of bringing frivolous cases; and the prosecutor in the Duke case dropped the charges.

Not all cases are won despite actual evidence. You'd have a point if you provided evidence that prosecutors most commonly file spurious cases. This, however, amounts to cherry picking.

Because it was a case based upon an unsubstantiated claim. The term frivolous is not a juridical term.
The right word is unsubstantiated.

What makes you think this case is different?

 

[Mock Turtle]

1991, Look Of The Year contest - I bet he did too.

Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year

In the early 90s, Donald Trump judged contestants at the world’s biggest modelling competition - since hit by allegations of abuse. This is how the people who were there remember it

www.theguardian.com

 

[Callisto]

Because it was a case based upon an unsubstantiated claim. The term frivolous is not a juridical term.
The right word is unsubstantiated.

Frivolous Litigation
Frivolous Claims - Cornell Law School
Frivolous Lawsuits and Vexatious Litigants - NH Law Library
Remedies for Frivolous Lawsuits - Connecticut General Assembly

• Trump fined nearly $1 million for frivolous lawsuit against Clinton
• Trump rushes to withdraw frivolous lawsuit against NY AG after a stark warning from judge

 

[Estro Felino]

Frivolous Litigation
Frivolous Claims - Cornell Law School
Frivolous Lawsuits and Vexatious Litigants - NH Law Library
Remedies for Frivolous Lawsuits - Connecticut General Assembly

• Trump fined nearly $1 million for frivolous lawsuit against Clinton
• Trump rushes to withdraw frivolous lawsuit against NY AG after a stark warning from judge

Thank you so much.
I didn't know that term because I studied law in Europe and in my country the so called frivolous claims are unthinkable.

Since that, jurists (attorneys, procurators, prosecutors) that willingly engage in frivolous claims, will be immediately jailed for obstruction to justice.
And they will be forced to compensate both the victims and the State, with a mulct.
We take the judicial system very very seriously, over here. We don't enable clowns to get away with it.
And by clowns I mean jurists who use the judicial system as a tool to nurture their personal revenges or antipathies.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I didn't know that term because I studied law in Europe and in my country the so called frivolous claims are unthinkable.

Sorry to have to cut in on the claims of someone I am ignoring, but this isn't true.

SLAPP suits are serious problem in Italy, such that multiple press freedom organisations have criticised the Italian government - and other powerful agencies and individuals - use of SLAPP suits to silence public criticism and unfavourable journalism.

Vexatious cases hindering investigative journalism in Italy

Frivolous legal cases against investigative journalists are often deployed as a strategy to silence them, ultimately seeking to hinder their work. A legal analysis on three cases involving defamation charges against Italian journalist Amalia De Simone

www.rcmediafreedom.eu

SLAPPs: the Italian Case

Strategic lawsuits threaten freedom of expression in Italy too: in this analysis, an overview of the situation, the threats, the chilling effect, and the bills currently under discussion in the Italian Parliament

www.rcmediafreedom.eu

Italy: Take a stand against SLAPPs and support the right to information - ARTICLE 19

Italian parliamentarians must take a stand against lawsuits that target and threaten the right to information and freedom of expression.

www.article19.org

Italy: Lawsuits against Saviano and Domani highlight wider SLAPP problem

In recent weeks there has been much talk in Italy about a recently opened legal case against the journalist and writer Roberto Saviano, who is accused of defamation in a lawsuit filed in 2020 by Giorgia Meloni, the new prime minister. A description of a wider Italian SLAPP problem.

www.mfrr.eu

If Estro had truly studied law in Italy, she would know about this.

 

[Estro Felino]

1991, Look Of The Year contest - I bet he did too.

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Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year

In the early 90s, Donald Trump judged contestants at the world’s biggest modelling competition - since hit by allegations of abuse. This is how the people who were there remember it

www.theguardian.com

Well...with all those women throwing themselves at him...
(a man that will never have to ask)...

such story seems unlikely to me, in terms of degrees of likelihood. I didn't say impossible. I said unlikely.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Well...with all those women throwing themselves at him...
(a man that will never have to ask)...

such story seems unlikely to me, in terms of degrees of likelihood. I didn't say impossible. I said unlikely.

Well, if you read the article, some of the contestants were only 14. Not that I am implying anything.

 

[fantome profane]

I'd expect a poster to understand that whenever a man can have all the women in the world...and whenever women practically throw themselves at him...
well...such stories don't have a high degree of credibility.
I didn't say it's impossible. I am speaking in terms of likelihood.

It's like I said Leonardo Di Caprio raped me. How credible is that? In terms of degrees of likelihood?

Are you suggesting that rich and powerful men are less likely to commit sexual assault? Because recent data does not bare that out, quite the contrary. It is practically a cliche. It seems like every man with power abuses that power to rape or sexually assualt some women (or man).

 

[PureX]

I understand it happened in the nineties.
Does she have zero witnesses?
Because she should have filed a lawsuit 17 years ago.
If she has zero witnesses, what makes her credible?
It's Trump's word against hers.

Why should I believe her?

It's not about what you believe.

 

[PureX]

Given that Trump has made his sexual attitude toward women public, and that he has expressed a total disregard for their rights sexually, this may be a more winnable case than most.

 

[Estro Felino]

Are you suggesting that rich and powerful men are less likely to commit sexual assault? Because recent data does not bare that out, quite the contrary. It is practically a cliche. It seems like every man with power abuses that power to rape or sexually assualt some women (or man).

Well...
would you believe me if I told you Leonardo Di Caprio raped me?
There are so many things to take into account.

 

[fantome profane]

Well...
would you believe me if I told you Leonardo Di Caprio raped me?
There are so many things to take into account.

I can't answer that question. But my point is that the idea of a famous, rich, good looking celebrity committing sexual assault is very believable.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well...
would you believe me if I told you Leonardo Di Caprio raped me?
There are so many things to take into account.

It's called evidence and plausibility. Trump, one of Epstein's besties, has a long history of sexual misconduct (see link in previous post.)

You're letting your weird infatuation with the creepy little goblin cloud your judgement.

 

[Estro Felino]

I can't answer that question. But my point is that the idea of a famous, rich, good looking celebrity committing sexual assault is very believable.

Considering that all women are crazy for Leonardo...
and that so many women (including me) would do anything to pass just one night with him,...

I guess I would not be that credible.

 

[ChristineM]

Considering that all women are crazy for Leonardo...
and that so many women (including me) would do anything to pass just one night with him,...

I guess I would not be that credible.

Don't include me in that comment


Please correct your statement to say "some" women